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DeSantis calls Trump supporters 'Listless vessels'

I'm sorry but I have no patience for you guys..

Every time I hear the statistics that 70% of Republicans believe the 2020 election was stolen I stop and ask myself "who are the stupid mother fuckers making up the other 30%?"

If you all can't understand what's going on at this point then there's no use arguing with your cinder block fucking heads.
Just go do something else
So what are you doing about it then? Nothing. Therefore you’ve given up. You might as well pour yourself a cup of STFU and join me.
 
I'm sorry but I have no patience for you guys..

Every time I hear the statistics that 70% of Republicans believe the 2020 election was stolen I stop and ask myself "who are the stupid mother fuckers making up the other 30%?"

If you all can't understand what's going on at this point then there's no use arguing with your cinder block fucking heads.
Just go do something else
What hat are you pulling those numbers out of

Did you miss the part where, in a deep blue county in Georgia they got your boy saying, “Need to find 11.780 votes… “and the have him recorded saying it.

Trumpers talking all this stolen election crap… they literally have trump recorded asking to find votes… they have more solid evidence against him than anyone.

No patience, you got no brains.


So I guess when John is not making naked selfies he's going to Burning Man and Coachella and hanging with his Bernie Bros.
Fucking hilarious.
Burning man and Coachella arent in October.

Go back to pigeoning and around the park.

Tell you one thing those hippiesi and Bernie bro’s, they are more organized, and motivated than any of y’all, in changing the political landscape. Many of them are a lot smarter in many facets of life, especially social organization. At least from what I can tell with my interactions with them. Btw, one of them is a Political Science Professor at a College… hard core Bernie Bro.
 
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We all know its bullshit but unfortunately you're right. And if he's convicted in GA i heard he cant even be pardoned. He did leave all the j6 people to rot so maybe its karma.
I am trying to think how many of them were convicted while he held office. What exactly do you think he could do ?
 
They literally suppressed ALL fraud information. Retards who only get information from MSM would totally believe the election was not stolen. The retards on this site must be paid disinformation stooges, no other explanation.
 
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What hat are you pulling those numbers out of

Did you miss the part where, in a deep blue county in Georgia they got your boy saying, “Need to find 11.780 votes… “and the have him recorded saying it.

Trumpers talking all this stolen election crap… they literally have trump recorded asking to find votes… they have more solid evidence against him than anyone.

No patience, you got no brains.



Burning man and Coachella arent in October.

Go back to pigeoning and around the park.

Tell you one thing those hippiesi and Bernie bro’s, they are more organized, and motivated than any of y’all, in changing the political landscape. Many of them are a lot smarter in many facets of life, especially social organization. At least from what I can tell with my interactions with them. Btw, one of them is a Political Science Professor at a College… hard core Bernie Bro.
Disguised Hero Worship.
 
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Disguised Hero Worship.
Fyi. They might not show up to Biden Rallies, but they are there. And they vote.

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This is where 81 Million is coming from.

And your shit attitude towards them, anti winning them over.
 
See more ignorant crap out of you. No solution just bitch and cry.

You are like a Pigion sitting on a statue in the park playing chess. You shit all over the art work and knock the pieces all over the board then get eaten by the cat as you bask in your "glory".
That dude Darnyankeeblahblah is more of the same illogical bullshit every time he posts..... "What you can prove isn't real, but what I believe and can't prove is definitely real and you are stupid for not trusting my un-educated opinion."
 
Ron is a bought and paid for Rino. The indictments against Trump will amount to nothing. With that said, we all know that massive fraud will be the norm again in 2024 and Biden, Newsom or other lefty will be installed. They got away with it in 2020 and 2022, so why not 2024.
 
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Voting. Lol.

DeSantis shouldn't be trusted by anyone.

Trump is the one they're all attacking. Should tell you something regardless of quips he has made here and there.

But again.... voting. Lol. Anyone who thinks the last election was legitimate is delusional. Anyone who thinks voting will solve anything going forward is also delusional.

We should be focusing on our local and state elections more than anything. Those are less likely to be meddled with. Hell any one of us should be trying to get on boards, local commitees etc to make a difference.
 
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What is that?
Look up Hulaween.

Lol assuming all druggeis vote Democrat. FYI. They have never had close to 81 million people there.
You sound like a V8 firing on 3 cylinders.

You are missing the point.

They are winning the ideology war. While many here are in a circular firing squad, they are out teaching in your public schools and appealing to younger crowd. In that, they are winning minds and you aren’t going to win this battle with more ammo…

If you just try to dismiss them as junkies, you’re highly underestimating them.

But you do u boo!
 
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Nice. Glad to see Communists who love to stomp the 1st Amendment are here. Enjoy your freedom while you have it Comrade.
Lol. You can't possibly be serious.

You should reread and comprehend.

You've embarrassed yourself
 
Look up Hulaween.


You sound like a V8 firing on 3 cylinders.

You are missing the point.

They are winning the ideology war. While many here are in a circular firing squad, they are out teaching in your public schools and appealing to younger crowd. In that, they are winning minds and you aren’t going to win this battle with more ammo…

If you just try to dismiss them as junkies, you’re highly underestimating them.

But you do u boo!
I can see that, the degenerate filth on the other side gained control of the universities & public fool system a few decades ago and have turned them into Marxist factories that produce Marxist voters. Then couple that with the importation of third world immigrants who have only known socialism that become citizens and vote for socialist shit.

And it’s only going to get worse.
 
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I am trying to think how many of them were convicted while he held office. What exactly do you think he could do ?
At bare minimum raise awareness. He hasnt even mentioned them. Maybe help with legal counsel? Literally anything would be a improvement. And honestly im about sick of hearing him attack conservatives and endorse Lindsey Graham. He was awesome for 3 years then failed as miserably as possible when we needed him most. Id still vote for him if it comes to it but i dont believe it will
 
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listless

lĭst′lĭs

adjective​

  1. Lacking energy or disinclined to exert effort; lethargic.
  2. Characterized by a lack of energy or interest.
  3. Having no desire or inclination; indifferent; heedless; spiritless.

Lack of energy, indifferent, spiritless? Is that why Trump supporters walk for blocks and wait in line for hours to get in to one of his rallies, or, stand outside just to see it on the big screen?

What do your supporters do Ron, all 10% of the polls, other than talk shit about Trump over on barfcom and suck each others dicks?
This right here is why we loose.
 
Probably the one single most important thing to do when courting the supporters of a rival is to call them nasty names. This should be followed up by questioning their IQ's, disparaging their families, ridiculing their military service and questioning their values, religion and forms of employment.


This asshole is going to talk himself right out of the race, you watch. Mike Obama is running and Republicans will not field a candidate with bigger balls that a pretend woman with two store bought kids.
 
Didn't hillary say something to this degree.....how well did that work for her....

Doc
 
I haven’t seen a candidate on the national level, ever, that runs on a platform of drastically shrinking the federal government/budget thereby lowering taxes and balancing the budget. Nor a truly pro 2A candidate, ever. Those are the issues that I care about and in my opinion we’ve been fucked for at least the last hundred years with no end in sight.
 
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What most folks overlook is that the words coming out of the candidates' mouths mostly come out of staff word processors. They especially like catchy phrases.

Don't believe anything a candidate says. You can always tell when they're lying.

Their mouths are moving. Best example; Joe B.
 
Have any of you political geniuses read the actual full text of his statement and not just react to bias edited versions on MSM?

I actually don't disagree with his statement and think that people are moronic who have personal loyalty to a fucking politician whose only loyalty is to themselves.

Read carefully and if you still object, have at it...but do so with full knowledge of what he actually said.

"So there will be people who are huge Trump supporters, like in Congress, who have incredibly liberal left-wing records that is really just atrocious, and yet they're viewed by some of these folks as like, really, really good," DeSantis said. "Then you have other people, you know, like a Congressman Chip Roy, who has endorsed me, Congressman Thomas Massie. These guys have records of principle fighting the swamp that are second to none. And yet, they will be attacked by some of these people and called RINOs. So it's just been totally detached from any type of substance."​
He continued, "And ultimately, a movement can't be about the personality of one individual. The movement has got to be about what are you trying to achieve on behalf of the American people? And that's got to be based in principle. Because if you're not rooted in principle, if all we are is listless vessels that are just supposed to follow whatever happens to come down the pike on Truth Social every morning, that's not going to be a durable movement."​
 
Have any of you political geniuses read the actual full text of his statement and not just react to bias edited versions on MSM?

I actually don't disagree with his statement and think that people are moronic who have personal loyalty to a fucking politician whose only loyalty is to themselves.

Read carefully and if you still object, have at it...but do so with full knowledge of what he actually said.

"So there will be people who are huge Trump supporters, like in Congress, who have incredibly liberal left-wing records that is really just atrocious, and yet they're viewed by some of these folks as like, really, really good," DeSantis said. "Then you have other people, you know, like a Congressman Chip Roy, who has endorsed me, Congressman Thomas Massie. These guys have records of principle fighting the swamp that are second to none. And yet, they will be attacked by some of these people and called RINOs. So it's just been totally detached from any type of substance."​
He continued, "And ultimately, a movement can't be about the personality of one individual. The movement has got to be about what are you trying to achieve on behalf of the American people? And that's got to be based in principle. Because if you're not rooted in principle, if all we are is listless vessels that are just supposed to follow whatever happens to come down the pike on Truth Social every morning, that's not going to be a durable movement."​
Is that context supposed to make it sound better? IMHO it just sounds worse.
 
Fine with me.....but at least you are commenting on what he said and not what MSM says he said. Right?
It's the same midwit bullshit the media and our detractors have been saying since he announced in 2015. That it's just a cult and it's just people worshiping him etc etc. Sure there are retards that do that just like there are for every politician. But the man's actual record as president was overall great. Best economy I've seen in my adult life anyways.

And with how mercilessly he's been attacked and vilified all this time, he clearly is hitting the target. Do I think he's perfect? Hell fucking no. In fact he's not even remotely rightwing enough for me. But he's better than any of these career hacks by far. And attacking any of us that support him is a low move.

Fuck Ron and all the rest of the career hacks.
 
The reason Trump made that phone call and said what he said is because he truly believed that votes for him were being suppressed fraudulently. He was asking them to go out and find the 11,000 + votes that he believed were there and were being hidden by whoever was rigging the election. He was asking them to do their jobs. There is nothing illegal about questioning the validity or integrity of an election until now. The Georgia charges are complete bullshit and so are all the others. Nothing wrong with asking state officials to do their jobs and uncover the fraud. The problem is they were already bought and paid for. These prosecutors bringing these bullshit charges will all end up disbarred, in prison or both. Definitely removed from their positions.
 
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It's the same midwit bullshit the media and our detractors have been saying since he announced in 2015. That it's just a cult and it's just people worshiping him etc etc. Sure there are retards that do that just like there are for every politician. But the man's actual record as president was overall great. Best economy I've seen in my adult life anyways.

And with how mercilessly he's been attacked and vilified all this time, he clearly is hitting the target. Do I think he's perfect? Hell fucking no. In fact he's not even remotely rightwing enough for me. But he's better than any of these career hacks by far. And attacking any of us that support him is a low move.

Fuck Ron and all the rest of the career hacks.
Brother...save your arguments for someone who is actually arguing with you. I don't give a flying fuck what asshole politician you have loyalty to. Its your vote, do with it what you want.

But try to grasp some real politics here....the middle, who ALWAYS decide general elections, will not vote for Trump for a number of obvious reasons. So, if the far wing of the GOP pushes Trump as a candidate for the general, we will have another four years of libtard bullshit.

The only candidate Trump could beat was Hildabeast. And the only candidate idiot, drooling, Biden could beat was Trump.

Learn the lessons of the past or be doomed to repeat them.

Have a great day.
 
Too busy infighting snd being incredibly ignorant to anything outside our own biases. "Dont like my shitty politician you must be a commie fag" its retard. Every see the left fight each other? The fags work with the grabbers, the baby killers work with the feminist and environmentalist. They all circle the wagons while we're arguing amongst ourselves over pointless shit and people not worthy of our support.
 
He continued, "And ultimately, a movement can't be about the personality of one individual.

The average voter (most?) will vote based on popularity or party. Women voted for Clinton because they considered him good-looking (no accounting for taste). So...candidates have to craft every sentences to convince the majority to "like" them.

When I first read his comments, I understood what he meant, but I knew where it would go. He does not have my support because he quit on Floridians after promising us four more years...and, IMO he is a career politician. Had he waited until 2028, maybe. As it stands, I will probably head to the range on election day.
 
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Brother...save your arguments for someone who is actually arguing with you. I don't give a flying fuck what asshole politician you have loyalty to. Its your vote, do with it what you want.

But try to grasp some real politics here....the middle, who ALWAYS decide general elections, will not vote for Trump for a number of obvious reasons. So, if the far wing of the GOP pushes Trump as a candidate for the general, we will have another four years of libtard bullshit.

The only candidate Trump could beat was Hildabeast. And the only candidate idiot, drooling, Biden could beat was Trump.

Learn the lessons of the past or be doomed to repeat them.

Have a great day.
If you honestly believe Biden beat Trump you're beyond reprieve.

I'm loyal to no one. I just know what the score is. I'd rather have Trump in office again than yet another career hack that's going to continue the status quo. The people you're talking about don't vote to begin with and never have. They're the kind of people that bitch and talk a big game about whatever political candidate and never actually vote.
 
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I can see that, the degenerate filth on the other side gained control of the universities & public fool system a few decades ago and have turned them into Marxist factories that produce Marxist voters. Then couple that with the importation of third world immigrants who have only known socialism that become citizens and vote for socialist shit.

And it’s only going to get worse.
In that group I used to camp with there were multiple teacher and faculty at all levels. And again these are not all “junkies” or degenerates, they are smart well educated people, but definitely hard lefties.

These festivals espouse hard left ideals, I really started to notice it as I got older and one of the reasons I don't go anymore.

Its going to get worse if its allowed to continue un fought. This is where getting involved at the local level effects the outcome at the state level. Definitely a front that needs attention and reinforcement. And has a direct effect on General Presidential elections.
 
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Too busy infighting snd being incredibly ignorant to anything outside our own biases. "Dont like my shitty politician you must be a commie fag" its retard. Every see the left fight each other? The fags work with the grabbers, the baby killers work with the feminist and environmentalist. They all circle the wagons while we're arguing amongst ourselves over pointless shit and people not worthy of our support.
So who's the 'shitty politician'? If you're referring to DJT, who was such a good president who momentarirly stopped whats happening now from happening in 2016-20 that they trying to throw him in prison on trumped up charges, if you're saying thats the my 'shitty politician' than you're a commie fag. Nut up and wear your colors proudly.
 
If you honestly believe Biden beat Trump you're beyond reprieve.

I'm loyal to no one. I just know what the score is. I'd rather have Trump in office again than yet another career hack that's going to continue the status quo. The people you're talking about don't vote to begin with and never have. They're the kind of people that bitch and talk a big game about whatever political candidate and never actually vote.
You reeeeee, it was Fraud types need to drop it. Move on. You’ve had two years to prove it, and personally haven’t seen anything drastic that has stood up. Yes small cases here and there. If you have 100% solid proof of wide scale fraud, where is it? Proof Like Trumps voice being recorded asking someone to find 11,780 and votes proof… enough to give him the win by one vote.

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But continuing to ignore the voice of the other you are doing a dis service to your self and those around you.
 
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In that group I used to camp with there were multiple teacher and faculty at all levels. And again these are not all “junkies” or degenerates, they are smart well educated people, but definitely hard lefties.

These festivals espouse hard left ideals, I really started to notice it as I got older and one of the reasons I don't go anymore.

Its going to get worse if its allowed to continue un fought. This is where getting involved at the local level effects the outcome at the state level. Definitely a front that needs attention and reinforcement. And has a direct effect on General Presidential elections.
Agree

Leftist=degenerate regardless of intelligence level.
 
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You reeeeee, it was Fraud types need to drop it. Move on. You’ve had two years to prove it, and personally haven’t seen anything drastic that has stood up. Yes small cases here and there. If you have 100% solid proof of wide scale fraud, where is it? Proof Like Trumps voice being recorded asking someone to find 11,780 and votes proof… enough to give him the win by one vote.

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But continuing to ignore the voice of the other you are doing a dis service to your self and those around you.
You mean like when Joe Biden said we’ve built the largest election fraud system ever?
 
You reeeeee, it was Fraud types need to drop it. Move on. You’ve had two years to prove it, and personally haven’t seen anything drastic that has stood up. Yes small cases here and there. If you have 100% solid proof of wide scale fraud, where is it? Proof Like Trumps voice being recorded asking someone to find 11,780 and votes proof… enough to give him the win by one vote.

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But continuing to ignore the voice of the other you are doing a dis service to your self and those around you.
Delusional. The evidence has been presented. Numerous times.

But as usual ASGH because no one has the balls to do anything about it. You morons that think our elections are totally on the level are living in a fucking fantasy land and haven't been paying attention to what's going on with this country for years. By all means continue to live blindly and just vote harder like good little goyim.
 
You reeeeee, it was Fraud types need to drop it. Move on. You’ve had two years to prove it, and personally haven’t seen anything drastic that has stood up. Yes small cases here and there. If you have 100% solid proof of wide scale fraud, where is it? Proof Like Trumps voice being recorded asking someone to find 11,780 and votes proof… enough to give him the win by one vote.

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But continuing to ignore the voice of the other you are doing a dis service to your self and those around you.

There was some strangeness in the Georgia 2022 election between the numbers for Kemp and the numbers for Walker


Arizona too

Look at the numbers for Hobbs and Yee.


Fraud? No idea, and not claiming it is.
 
It was fraud. Reeee free. It was fraud. There hasn’t been an honest investigation of the election that hasn’t proven fraud. One developer even demonstrated that excel was used to create fraudulent voting machine results using a five digit polynomial.

Patriots aren’t afraid of you statists.

YOU are the minority.

YOU are outclassed.

YOU are out willed.

YOU are weak.

YOU will quit.

Commies only believe when they’re winning.
 
i am a big desantis and trump fan. i am disappointed in ron's pronouncements on the campaign trail. looking kinda globalist. don't really want him out of FL anyway. he HAS done more for personal freedom in FL than anyone else in national or state office,ever,i would say. FL's future? can only hope he is replaced by another of same mind set when he finishes as gov. trump? yes he did try to derail the DC woke machine. he is paying the price in such an extra legal,obviously planned and coordinated way that he may get jailed. they haven't killed him yet as that would be too obvious even for dumbass american sheeple. he is also paying the price for not being a pol or DC insider and thinking that the "expert" help he sought and advice he took was truthful,not a totally planned destruction of his ideas and attempts. sabotaged with the help of the same rino establishment that destroyed herman caine and ignored ben carson,ron paul and any other conservative.
this new guy ramaswamy sounds good and i had to listen x2 to his tucker interview to get his twist. he claims that the elites withhold,manipulate and distort the truth because they care about us and think we just can't handle it. no evil intent or plan just misguided! that writes him off to me. he wants us all to sing kumbaya along with them. says all the right stuff with vigor but hard to ignore his subtext.
and NO,we are not voting our way out of this. 2020 proves that if nothing else does.
Watch Ramaswamyshamalamadingdong’s interview with fuckhead Barr. End of story
 
Delusional. The evidence has been presented. Numerous times.

But as usual ASGH because no one has the balls to do anything about it. You morons that think our elections are totally on the level are living in a fucking fantasy land and haven't been paying attention to what's going on with this country for years. By all means continue to live blindly and just vote harder like good little goyim.
So where is all this “ evidence”

Saying and proving it are too different things, be sure to correlate them to how he lost Georgia.

Good luck!
 
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