Just got my Optimus 9! Purchased 2 April from Silencer Shop, picked it up 25 September. Can't wait to try it out tomorrow.
Rugged Obsidian 9mm
Ordered 04/07/2020
Form 4 tax stamped cashed 05/04/2020
Call from dealer today 09/29/2020
5-months from ordering.
Got one more to go from earlier this month...
Ordered 04/07/2020
Form 4 tax stamped cashed 05/04/2020
Call from dealer today 09/29/2020
5-months from ordering.
Got one more to go from earlier this month...
TBAC Dominus 30 CB
purchased from Silencer Shop 8/31/20
Single Shot trust documents completed 9/1/20
Single Shot trust generated 9/16/20
Tax stamp check cashed 9/26/20
now the wait....
purchased from Silencer Shop 8/31/20
Single Shot trust documents completed 9/1/20
Single Shot trust generated 9/16/20
Tax stamp check cashed 9/26/20
now the wait....
feel i was lucky, bought 3 at one time. 165 days until picked up.
YHM Resonator K
Trust with 1 responsible person
Ordered 5/1/2020 from Silencershop
Check cashed 5/29/2020
Stamp approved 9/24/2020
Picked up suppressor from dealer 10/1/2020
Trust with 1 responsible person
Ordered 5/1/2020 from Silencershop
Check cashed 5/29/2020
Stamp approved 9/24/2020
Picked up suppressor from dealer 10/1/2020
SilencerCo Omega 36M
Ordered via SilencerShop Kiosk on Mar-17-2020
ATF check cashed on Apr-1-2020
Stamp approved on Sep-9-2020
Stamp Returned to FFL on 9-28-2020
Total time from Order-to-Pickup ... 6 months 11 days
Not bad ... prior cans over the past few years actually took longer.
Ordered via SilencerShop Kiosk on Mar-17-2020
ATF check cashed on Apr-1-2020
Stamp approved on Sep-9-2020
Stamp Returned to FFL on 9-28-2020
Total time from Order-to-Pickup ... 6 months 11 days
Not bad ... prior cans over the past few years actually took longer.
They must have sold out pretty fast. I got an e-mail update from them on September 23rd that said they were up to speed again and shipping in 3-4 days.
TBAC 338 Ultra
Family trust
Submitted approx 4/5
Approved 9/3
Dealer called 10/2
Family trust
Submitted approx 4/5
Approved 9/3
Dealer called 10/2
Finally received all 4 stamps back... my silencer addiction has been filled for future YEARS now( atleast I hope) after having 9 in jail at once this past year...Little batch approval action today!
• Bowers VERS458, TBAC Ultra 9 30cal, Rugged Obsidian 45 Black all check cashed 4/23/2020
• Rugged Obsidian 45 FDE check cashed 5/5/2020
All 4 cans approved 9/8/2020
Still waiting on FFL to receive the stamps... I love buying multiple cans at once
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The decision to get a can through a trust should not be based upon the chance of a “quicker” approval. Sure the individual ones usually come back a few weeks sooner they are rarely that much different. In the grand scheme of things the benefits of the trust greatly out way the disadvantages of an individual.
I did an individual trust. Maybe I’m not understanding a difference between a trust in just my name vs individual
| Individual | Single Shot Trust | Single Shot Unlimited | Traditional NFA Trust | Corporation | |
| Who is allowed to transport and use my silencer? | You | Anyone listed as a Trustee (including you). | Anyone listed as a Trustee (including you). | Anyone listed as a Trustee (including you). | Anyone listed as an officer (including you). |
| What are the requirements to set up? | No additional paperwork is necessary. | One-time Digital Signature sent via DocuSign. | Digital Signature sent via DocuSign for each Single Shot Trust use. | Print, notarize & scan. Then upload to Silencer Shop customer portal. | Submit your letter of Incorporation via Silencer Shop customer portal. |
| How do I add Trustee(s) to be able to transport and shoot my silencer without me there? | This option does not allow Trustees. | We provide an amendment for you to use when you want to add a responsible party to your Trust. | We provide an amendment for you to use when you want to add a responsible party to your Trust. | Varies depending on the Trust used. When using Silencer Shop’s Trust, we provide an Addendum. | Varies depending on State requirements for adding an officer. |
| Is a CLEO (Chief Law Enforcement Officer) Notification Required? | Yes, but we do it for you. | Yes, but we do it for you. | Yes, but we do it for you. | Yes, but we do it for you and all Trustees. | Yes, but we do it for you and all Officers. |
| Can I list who will receive my silencer upon my death? | No, but can be willed to an heir. | The Trust is set up to pass to whomever is listed as the Executor of your will. | The Trust is set up to pass to whomever is listed as the Executor of your will. | Yes, there will be a spot for you to list beneficiaries when you set up your Trust. | Articles of Incorporation should have a section laid out for this. |
| Who has to complete Fingerprints? | Required by you. | Required by you. | Required by you. | Required by you & all responsible parties. | Required by all officers listed on the Corporation. |
| Who has to complete a Passport-Style Photo? | Required by you. | Required by you. | Required by you. | Required by you & all responsible parties. | Required by all officers listed on the Corporation. |
| Who has to provide Registration Information? | Required by you. | Required by you. | Required by you. | Required by you & all responsible parties. | Required by all officers listed on the Corporation. |
| How many times can I use this registration method? | You can file as an Individual as many times as you want. | One silencer (or serialized item) per Single Shot Trust. | Unlimited, but there will be one silencer per Single Shot Trust. | Unlimited. You can add as many items as you want to the Trust. | Unlimited. You can add as many items as you want to the Corporation. |
| Does it Increase the Wait Time? | No. | No. | No. | Possibly. The more responsible parties you have listed on your trust, the more time it could take the ATF to investigate each person. | Possibly. The more responsible parties you have listed on your Corporation, the more time it could take the ATF to investigate each person. |
| Cost | $0 | $24.95 | $129.95 Note: Cost effective if you plan to buy 5 or more serialized items. | At Silencer Shop, $129.95. Otherwise, an attorney could charge whatever they want. | N/A |
Form 4 TBAC TD22 Filed Individual
Pending 4/10/20
Check cashed 4/23/20
Approved 9/22/20
Stamp at dealer 10/7/20
Pending 4/10/20
Check cashed 4/23/20
Approved 9/22/20
Stamp at dealer 10/7/20
SF Ryder 9-MP5 Single shot trust
Submitted 04/30/20
Approved 09/21/20
At LGS 10/02/20
Submitted 04/30/20
Approved 09/21/20
At LGS 10/02/20
Thunder beast ultra 7
Purchased 4/1/20 from Mile High, Form 3'd and shipped super fast
Did paperwork at The Outpost armory Christiana, TN 4/17/20
Called today ATF said pending as of 8/18/20
The Outpost Armory sat on their ass for 4 months apparently , I've got a call in to see WTF happened before I drive 45 mins to ask in person.
Update
They are in changing locations and have a new FFL/SOT, they claim to have instructed their employees on march 28th to tell NFA paperwork people that their paperwork would be held until they got the new FFL/SOT name. That was never communicated to me at all ,which if it had been, I would either have gone to another FFL or not called today thinking I'm a month or two away from being approved.
They tried to say they are still waiting on approvals from '19, I said that doesn't have anything to do with taking 4 months to submit paperwork or communicating there might be a delay because of FFL/SOT names and the new location. Manage expectations and you won't have pissed off people.
I've had bad luck lately with all this shit. It's all going to work out fine but freakin won't have the suppressor for who knows when, just got a Christensen MPR that won't shoot and have to send it in, and my new Matthews VXR shoots so fast that it's making rage Broadheads expand mid flight and I blew up two arrows trying to diagnose the issue. It's shooting amazing with different broad heads.. at least I'll be able to bow hunt
Purchased 4/1/20 from Mile High, Form 3'd and shipped super fast
Did paperwork at The Outpost armory Christiana, TN 4/17/20
Called today ATF said pending as of 8/18/20
The Outpost Armory sat on their ass for 4 months apparently , I've got a call in to see WTF happened before I drive 45 mins to ask in person.
Update
They are in changing locations and have a new FFL/SOT, they claim to have instructed their employees on march 28th to tell NFA paperwork people that their paperwork would be held until they got the new FFL/SOT name. That was never communicated to me at all ,which if it had been, I would either have gone to another FFL or not called today thinking I'm a month or two away from being approved.
They tried to say they are still waiting on approvals from '19, I said that doesn't have anything to do with taking 4 months to submit paperwork or communicating there might be a delay because of FFL/SOT names and the new location. Manage expectations and you won't have pissed off people.
I've had bad luck lately with all this shit. It's all going to work out fine but freakin won't have the suppressor for who knows when, just got a Christensen MPR that won't shoot and have to send it in, and my new Matthews VXR shoots so fast that it's making rage Broadheads expand mid flight and I blew up two arrows trying to diagnose the issue. It's shooting amazing with different broad heads.. at least I'll be able to bow hunt
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How many responsible persons? I switched up my family trust to 3 from 1 RP.
Silencer Shop
One shot Trust
Surefire SOCOM 556-RC2-BK
Check cashed: 3/12/2020
Approved: 8/06/2020
Received Tax Stamp: 10/08/2020
One shot Trust
Surefire SOCOM 556-RC2-BK
Check cashed: 3/12/2020
Approved: 8/06/2020
Received Tax Stamp: 10/08/2020
That sucks. Outpost did a suppressor transfer for me last year without any issues. Used a guy in Manchester for a recent transfer who charged half as much. Picked that one up just yesterday.
checks cashed 8/22/19... There were 7 items in the batch of paper work I sent in. One was approved with stamp received in March. The rest I am still waiting on. Trust with 2RP. Called in early September and no dice...
Tried to call today, but it's a federal holiday.
Pretty sure my reviewer caught the 'Rona and passed...
Feh...
Tried to call today, but it's a federal holiday.
Pretty sure my reviewer caught the 'Rona and passed...
Feh...
Silencershop single shot trust.
Yhm resonator r2
Silencerco 36m
Both checks cashed 6/13/20
Stamps at lgs 9/13/20
First time nfa buyer
4 months total!
Yhm resonator r2
Silencerco 36m
Both checks cashed 6/13/20
Stamps at lgs 9/13/20
First time nfa buyer
4 months total!
Wow! That’s about as good as it gets, you are one of the lucky ones! Congrats!!
checks cashed 8/22/19... There were 7 items in the batch of paper work I sent in. One was approved with stamp received in March. The rest I am still waiting on. Trust with 2RP. Called in early September and no dice...
Tried to call today, but it's a federal holiday.
Pretty sure my reviewer caught the 'Rona and passed...
Feh...
aaaaaannnnnndddd called today...
Still pending...
Called again today...
Check cased 5/27/20
APPROVED 10/7/20 !!!
Now I just have to wait for the call...
Check cased 5/27/20
APPROVED 10/7/20 !!!
Now I just have to wait for the call...
My 2nd TB 22td just cleared in exactly 6 months.
Put a DeadAir Wolfman in clink today....here’s to hoping it clears as fast!
Put a DeadAir Wolfman in clink today....here’s to hoping it clears as fast!
Four months! This is what @Johrichal really looks like. I'm not accusing anyone of undue influence but pointing out the obvious. Everyone else can draw their own conclusions.
I'm seeing a lot of forms that were cashed around the same time as mine are starting to be approved. In your opinion, how often is too often to call the ATF to check the status?
I’d say that any more than 6 times a day is starting to get excessive...
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