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Last weeks run and today’s run. 6.5cm Tikka ctr in krg xray with shv 4-14. Tipped over and arranged benches at range to get correct heights.
 

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If shooting a 22lr are targets supposed to be at 100 yards or 50% smaller at 50 yards. I've been shooting regular size target at 50 yards.
 

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    If shooting a 22lr are targets supposed to be at 100 yards or 50% smaller at 50 yards. I've been shooting regular size target at 50 yards.
    IMHO its a good idea to increase in target resulution. Post a 1" pastie to get ~true 2MOA mark. Or re-print out scaled version. Whichever is easiest. In long run shooting diamonds is harder than equivalent-sized circles FWIW.
     

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    This is the target of my wife, also for her first time.
     

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    First go at the Kraft challenge

    Thinking I need to raise my butt pad slightly to mitigate the “dip” in recoil to avoid the high shot group.

    Shot with my 6.5 creedmoor

    Any suggestions are welcome! Pick me apart gents.

    Zero was about half a tenth left with perfect elevation and was .278” with three shots.
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    First go at the Kraft challenge

    Thinking I need to raise my butt pad slightly to mitigate the “dip” in recoil to avoid the high shot group.

    Shot with my 6.5 creedmoor

    Any suggestions are welcome! Pick me apart gents.

    Zero was about half a tenth left with perfect elevation and was .278” with three shots.View attachment 7745525View attachment 7745526
    That’s good work.
     
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    First standing and kneeling (primos trigger sticks sucked). Ditched em and used a tree and a planter pot for the rest and did better than I normally did. Picked up some good tips from the modern day sniper podcast about basic positioning etc. still coming 4-5 mils up from recoil so obviously a ways to go, but compared to what I shot last year I’m a bit happier.
     

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    Meant to add the setup pic. Used the tree, planter and the mat cuz I don’t like laying in snow…. The tree is 97 yards if it matters…

    Also anyone want to buy some trigger sticks 😂
     

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    I believe I’d scoot the mat back a few yards and call it good. Laying in the snow sucks. Good shooting.
     

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    One more

    Zeroed with my hand loads and then shot this with some factory stuff without adjusting zero. POI difference was ~3/4" lower for the factory ammo than my handloads. T3x Lite w/ a fixed SWFA 6x scope.
    Standing was off a tree trunk, kneeling off an upside down feed bucket (w/ bipod), sitting was off an upside down pot (w/ bipod), prone was bipod and rear bag.

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    Fun drill
    223, positions besides prone were clipped into an rrs ascend.
    Upper left was foulers only, cleaned carbon right before this outing

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    Maybe I’m just bad at finding it, but can anyone explain the Kraft number and how it’s calculated?
     

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    My efforts
     

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    Hate to follow lawnboi with this one but here's todays. Tried to use the binos and mark each position/hit on a clean target that I had next to me between shots. 4.8 on the kraft website.

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    Anyone know if there's an updated printout that has the #s in the same spot as the website version does?
    On the print #1 is the center diamond, on the website # 1 is the second diamond.
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    Some background in case you guys wonder the 3 high shots. This all started when I was practicing barricade for PRS matches and noticed they were very consistently .5mil low (~1.5” which is a lot for 100yd) compared to bench using bipod, without knowing why I ended up just zeroed using standing barricade position for my PRS match.

    I started this Post asking for help. The short outcome is front rest (like bipod) vs GC near magwell have ~1.5” POI shift on either bench or prone. The #kraftdata prone position proved it.

    I’m just glad that I now at least know the cause but what should I do at the PRS match?, maybe to avoid using bipod as much as I can which is def not the solution.

    RPR 6.5 CM

    Thanks!
     

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    One more today. Really has a hard time getting steady standing (and sitting/kneeling too 😂)
     
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    I'm late to the party, but have to start somewhere. Today I decided to give this a try. I did a bit of practice with each of the positions first, trying some different things on shoulder pressure and support hand position and pressure.

    After figuring out what combination worked best for each position, I put it all together and did the Kraft Drill. I just used the target I had already up at 100. Not timed, probably 12-15 seconds per shot. I used my tripod, with a pint sized GC on top, and just adjusted to so the top of the tripod was at 4 feet, 3 feet, and 2 feet for each of the positions. I shot 5 shots each for Standing, Kneeling, and Sitting; and 3 shots Prone.

    *(The shots on the overlay picture outside the 8 diamond in the lower right were from me zeroing the gun earlier in the day and were not a part of the Kraft Drill)

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    I am going out to shoot the Kraft target today is the target on Chris’s website the same for rimfire ? Seems like someone posted a rimfire specific one, but I’m not a 100 percent on that. Or should I just shoot the one that looks like everyone else’s here ? Thanks
     

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    I've just started doing my own version of the Kraft drill in the last couple of weeks. Quite enlightening, and it definitely helped at today's match.
     

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    I am going out to shoot the Kraft target today is the target on Chris’s website the same for rimfire ? Seems like someone posted a rimfire specific one, but I’m not a 100 percent on that. Or should I just shoot the one that looks like everyone else’s here ? Thanks
    Check out his podcasts. He said start at 25 then go to 50 yards with 22z
     
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    Did I miss somewhere why this is shot on one single target versus different targets for different positions (standing, kneeling, sitting, prone) where as shooting them on different targets for each position which could give valuable feedback to the shooter that they are doing something different in each position that shows up on paper?
    I get the total aggregate of all data in one target of all shots, but the thought crossed my mind about why/shooting them separate. Didn't know if this was discussed somewhere by Chris, or not. Figured I'd ask.
     
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    Did I miss somewhere why this is shot on one single target versus different targets for different positions (standing, kneeling, sitting, prone) where as shooting them on different targets for each position which could give valuable feedback to the shooter that they are doing something different in each position that shows up on paper?
    I get the total aggregate of all data in one target of all shots, but the thought crossed my mind about why/shooting them separate. Didn't know if this was discussed somewhere by Chris, or not. Figured I'd ask.
    IIRC Its to illustrate that your 'general accuracy' as a 'rifleman' or 'precision shooter' should be measured across all disciplines.
     

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    Did I miss somewhere why this is shot on one single target versus different targets for different positions (standing, kneeling, sitting, prone) where as shooting them on different targets for each position which could give valuable feedback to the shooter that they are doing something different in each position that shows up on paper?
    I get the total aggregate of all data in one target of all shots, but the thought crossed my mind about why/shooting them separate. Didn't know if this was discussed somewhere by Chris, or not. Figured I'd ask.
    There is a positional target to do exactly as you describe
     

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    There is a positional target to do exactly as you describe
    I believe then I missed a portion of the information then.
    I asked after wondering that, and then seeing some targets that had that, but didn't know if they were home grown, or part of the Kraft drills that Chris developed.
    Reference link to the targets?
     

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    Did I miss somewhere why this is shot on one single target versus different targets for different positions (standing, kneeling, sitting, prone) where as shooting them on different targets for each position which could give valuable feedback to the shooter that they are doing something different in each position that shows up on paper?
    I get the total aggregate of all data in one target of all shots, but the thought crossed my mind about why/shooting them separate. Didn't know if this was discussed somewhere by Chris, or not. Figured I'd ask.
    If you go to RifleKraft.com and look at target selection there is an option for the positional target.
     
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    I believe then I missed a portion of the information then.
    I asked after wondering that, and then seeing some targets that had that, but didn't know if they were home grown, or part of the Kraft drills that Chris developed.
    Reference link to the targets?
    They can be printed off his site.

    Great target for testing changes as well in equipment or process.
     
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    My first attempt

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    MPA 6CM shooting factory Hornady 108 ELDM

    Standing, kneeling and sitting were off of Schmedium heavy fill game changer on top of tripod, prone was prone with rear bag.

    ETA, sequence is off. I didn't track what hole went where other than knowing that I was pulling my standing shots high.
     

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    Is the riflekraft.com page closed for non us people??

    I no longer se shit when I'm logged in, just a black page with white topo lines... been like this for a good few months now...
    Messaged Chris way back and got a reply that the tec people would look in to it, haven't heard anything after that.
     
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    Is the riflekraft.com page closed for non us people??

    I no longer se shit when I'm logged in, just a black page with white topo lines... been like this for a good few months now...
    Messaged Chris way back and got a reply that the tec people would look in to it, haven't heard anything after that.
    Okami,
    What country are you in?
    Have you cleared your browser cache and or tried a different browser?
    The site works and is being updated regularly with cool features but there are some countries that don’t have access. Depending on your country we could open it or chose to keep closed.. I’d need more info.
    Anyway, be good.
     

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    Maybe something is going on with it? I’m a subscriber and havnt logged in a for a while. My rifle profiles are all gone with only my initial targets viewable
     

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    I'm located in Sweden.

    I have tried it on my PC in Chrome, Firefox and Edge. And on my phone and on a Samsung Tab.
     
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