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    For some reason I thought you already were habitual member

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    They are about to release another tier iirc. Need 10 cans from what I remember.

    I don't think I'll be reaching that tier.
    Nah, just stuck at Tier 2 right now with only 4 DA cans…Until I get my 5th. 😐

    Would have already been there had SS not been sold out of Ghost-M cans for months when I bought my pistol can, and I had to get a Rugged Obsidian 45 instead. 👍🏼
     
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    But i can't complain... The Obsidian 45 is an awesome pistol can, so... 🤷🏼

    Just means that someday I get to add a Nomad-30 to my collection, unless DA comes out with something new and cool I feel I need.
     

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    I’ve been eyeing this can sooo hard lately. Not sure if the dominus or the nomad Ti/LT is the right choice for my .308.
     

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    I’ve been eyeing this can sooo hard lately. Not sure if the dominus or the nomad Ti/LT is the right choice for my .308.
    Nomad-LT is noticeably quieter than the Dominus, according to TBAC Ray's independent tests... Just saying... 😏

    You won't regret the Nomad-LT. Plus the HUB threads allowing you to run whatever mounting system you want is what sold me over the TBAC. Haven't regretted my choice not one time.
     

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    Nomad-LT is noticeably quieter than the Dominus, according to TBAC Ray's independent tests... Just saying... 😏

    You won't regret the Nomad-LT. Plus the HUB threads allowing you to run whatever mounting system you want is what sold me over the TBAC. Haven't regretted my choice not one time.
    I have a kymo brake on it now and thought about going that route but will probably just DT it.
     

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    I have a kymo brake on it now and thought about going that route but will probably just DT it.
    I run KeyMo and a Dead Air thermal wrap, and it's not much more weight than a standard Nomad-L with no wrap and a DT adapter. And that KeyMo setup is heavy...About 8 oz. by itself.

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    Yea I run the micro on my Wolfman on the pcc. It’s a thicc little unit so I can only imagine what the full size is like. Knowing me I’ll get stuff for both and play with it.
     

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    Yea I run the micro on my Wolfman on the pcc. It’s a thicc little unit so I can only imagine what the full size is like. Knowing me I’ll get stuff for both and play with it.
    You could always go Xeno... I heard they're making a Xeno brake like the KeyMo, but the Xeno unit is REALLY light compared to the KeyMo.

    Personally, I like the KeyMo. The extra weight doesn't really bother me since the can is already so light.
     
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    Nomad-LT is noticeably quieter than the Dominus, according to TBAC Ray's independent tests... Just saying... 😏

    You won't regret the Nomad-LT. Plus the HUB threads allowing you to run whatever mounting system you want is what sold me over the TBAC. Haven't regretted my choice not one time.
    Yeah, but the Magnus would be a more comparable can to the Nomad LT than the Dominus. Only .5" difference in length between Magnus and the Nomad LT but the Dominus is a 6.25" can.
     
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    Yeah, but the Magnus would be a more comparable can to the Nomad LT than the Dominus. Only .5" difference in length between Magnus and the Nomad LT but the Dominus is a 6.25" can.
    Yeah, I agree, but I also wasn't the one who mentioned the Domninus being part of the comparison... @Mini 762 did...

    Also, by the time you get a S/N from TBAC while waiting on production, submit your paperwork, and the can actually ships to your dealer, the Magnus will be about 2 years before it hits your hands. You can buy a Nomad-LT today, eForm it, and hopefully have it in less than 4 months, since the ATF claims 90 days on eForm 4s. 👍🏼
     
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    Yeah, I agree, but I also wasn't the one who mentioned the Domninus being part of the comparison... @Mini 762 did...

    Also, by the time you get a S/N from TBAC while waiting on production, submit your paperwork, and the can actually ships to your dealer, the Magnus will be about 2 years before it hits your hands. You can buy a Nomad-LT today, eForm it, and hopefully have it in less than 4 months, since the ATF claims 90 days on eForm 4s. 👍🏼
    I was quoted around April/May time-frame for my Magnus to be done and if e-form is working correctly I should have my Magnus before the end of the year. So maybe a 3 or 4 at the most month difference. Mehhh not a big deal deal for me. TBAC has much improved their wait times. My Dominus was ordered in November and was ready to ship in January.
     

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    I was quoted around April/May time-frame for my Magnus to be done and if e-form is working correctly I should have my Magnus before the end of the year. So maybe a 3 or 4 at the most month difference. Mehhh not a big deal deal for me. TBAC has much improved their wait times. My Dominus was ordered in November and was ready to ship in January.
    That's good to know. They used to be like a year out. Especially during all the runs when everyone gets scared and starts buying up all the cans, as if the government is going to make a highly-regulated NFA item disappear. That's a damn cash-cow for them! They wouldn't do that, that's $200 a pop in free stolen money simply to sit on some paperwork for a while, and then run 1 background check, slap a stamp on it, and sign & date it. It's even LESS work now that eForms are up and running. 🙄
     
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    New video is up comparing the Dead Air Nomad-LT with the new Otter Creek Labs Hydrogen-L on my 16" .300 BLK with my 220 subsonic handloads...

     

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    Got any pics of the LT and Hydrogen L standing side by side?
     

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    Got any pics of the LT and Hydrogen L standing side by side?
    Not without the thermal wrap on the LT. I put it on when it was brand new, and it's a bitch to remove and get it tight again. So I keep it on there.

    But specs are simple to tell you the difference... The Nomad-LT is 8.5" long and 1.735" OD. The Hydrogen-L is 9" long and 1.625" OD. So, this Hydro-L is 0.5" longer, but 0.110" narrower. It comes out to pretty much equal volume. Performance wise is pretty much a wash, too. They're both amazing, and both are pretty much equal in volume. I highly recommend both cans. The Hydrogen-L will be my main hunting can with the new Otter Creek ZR0-DTA direct-thread mount that is also solid Ti and weighs virtually nothing, and adds no length to the suppressor.

    Hydrogen-L is in the middle, Nomad-LT is on the right.

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    Thanks, man. I thought the Hydrogen L was 9" without the thread mount, but like 9.4" with it. Whereas the LT is 8.4" with the thread mount. So wouldn't the HL be 1" longer if apples to apples? Or is the LT 8.4" WITHOUT the thread mount?
     

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    Thanks, man. I thought the Hydrogen L was 9" without the thread mount, but like 9.4" with it. Whereas the LT is 8.4" with the thread mount. So wouldn't the HL be 1" longer if apples to apples? Or is the LT 8.4" WITHOUT the thread mount?
    No, both are measured WITHOUT the mount. So the Hydrogen-L is a total of 0.60" longer than the Nomad-LT.

    As for added length, that depends on the mount/mounting system that you use. The Otter Creek ZR0-DTA adds no length to the suppressor, other than maybe like 1/16" for the flange.

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    It sounded like the LT was a little less sharp in volume and tone than the OC cans.
     

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    It sounded like the LT was a little less sharp in volume and tone than the OC cans.
    The Nomad-LT has slightly more volume internally, because it's 1.735" O.D., whereas the OCL Hydro cans are 1.625" O.D.

    BUT... The OCL Hydrogen-L (9" long) is a 1/2" longer than the Nomad-LT (8.5" long), so it might actually equal itself out in volume? Anyone want to extrapolate the math, feel free. I'm not a mathematician.

    And the Hydro-S is only 7" in length, and has 9 baffles, so it's shorter and has 4 less baffles than the Nomad-LT and Hydrogen-L. Ironically though, despite the shorter length and fewer baffles, on the .308 Win and smaller cartridges it doesn't give up a whole lot of DB to the longer L cans. I guess case capacity vs. internal volume of the cans, the 7" cans are the perfect volume to properly suppress short-action and mini-action (AR-15 designed), and subsonic cartridges at hearing-safe levels. But, once you step-up into long-action cartridges like .270 Win, .280 Rem, .30-06 and magnum cartridges, you will want the extra volume and baffles of the L cans to really tame those down to a safe and comfortable volume. My 22.5" 7mm RemMag with the Hydrogen-L and Nomad-LT on the end, is hearing safe, and damn-sure hunting quiet.
     

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    New video comparing my Dead Air Sandman-S & Nomad-LT with my Otter Creek Labs Hydrogen-S on my new 10" .300 BLK build. I'm using a non-magnified EOTech 512 with the A65 "donut of death" reticle to holdover and hit a 10" steel gong at 200 yards.

     
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    Due to the ATF screwing everyone with eForms right now, pushing them WAAAAY beyond the original 90 day [typical empty government] promise… My new Otter Creek Labs Hydrogen-L, which is going to be my dedicated hunting rifle can, looks like it will be quite a while before It gets approved. Probably after deer season, knowing my luck. 🙄

    So… I decided to snatch the heavy KeyMo setup off my Nomad-LT, and put my spare ultralight Otter Creek ZR0-DTA titanium DT mount on it, and I’ll probably end up using it this season.

    Looks pretty good on the new Ridgeline .280 Ackley… Pretty damn lightweight, too. Definitely packable. OAL with the 24” barrel is 52” from the floor to the end of the can, so it’s a longboi for sure…. But if you needed to, you could just wait to screw the can on once you’re in the stand. The OCL ZR0-DTA mount only adds 1/16” to the length of your suppressor, just enough to have a thick enough flange to mount securely and strongly to the back of the can, and recesses the barrel threads up inside the blast chamber for virtually zero extra length.

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    Due to the ATF screwing everyone with eForms right now, pushing them WAAAAY beyond the original 90 day [typical empty government] promise… My new Otter Creek Labs Hydrogen-L, which is going to be my dedicated hunting rifle can, looks like it will be quite a while before It gets approved. Probably after deer season, knowing my luck. 🙄

    So… I decided to snatch the heavy KeyMo setup off my Nomad-LT, and put my spare ultralight Otter Creek ZR0-DTA titanium DT mount on it, and I’ll probably end up using it this season.

    Looks pretty good on the new Ridgeline .280 Ackley… Pretty damn lightweight, too. Definitely packable. OAL with the 24” barrel is 52” from the floor to the end of the can, so it’s a longboi for sure…. But if you needed to, you could just wait to screw the can on once you’re in the stand. The OCL ZR0-DTA mount only adds 1/16” to the length of your suppressor, just enough to have a thick enough flange to mount securely and strongly to the back of the can, and recesses the barrel threads up inside the blast chamber for virtually zero extra length.

    I'm being a bit pedantic here but there was never a promise of 90 day approvals. It was a goal they wanted to reach after some ramp up time.
     

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    Shot 25 more rounds, and a 3-shot group today with the Nomad-LT on there. POI shift from my previous zero with the Hydro-L and ZR0-DTA, and my Nomad-LT with a ZR0-DTA, was only 0.3 MILs low, and dead-on left & right. So, not bad at all. Kind of impressive, actually.

    Here’s the group.

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