Why the fuck do you think they did it in the first place?
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To make people like you thing that stealing their assets would some how make them turn against their own HNIC.
Are you aware of the Coup that happened in 2014? Did you think they were just going to sit back and get butt fucked out of Ukraine?
Who said anything about "turning on Putin"? You've got a vivid imagination. You need a short term lesson in economics.
You did you dumb motherfucker.
So whats your retort.
I highly doubt it’s gonna be anything intelligent
Dude, just stop. We get it, you are a clueless idiot. No need to keep emphasizing the point.
They're not going to do it themselves you fucking idiot. I sincerely apologize for giving you credit for having ANY intelligence. I won't make that mistake again.
This
Driving the Russians and Chinese together is about the worst strategic move the US could have made. Only thing worse is letting China get ready for WW3 on their timetable. ...which the current admin is allowing and/or encouraging
Next worse is allowing the petro dollar to fall out of favor, but that's not nearly as catastrophic casualty-wise
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You sure as hell don't have a brain that's functioning.
Awe, did she leave you.
Regardless of what you say, Putin will continue to grind Ukraine down, until there are no Ukrainians to fight and nothing to fight with. Ukraine will be part of Russia, again.
@billtRussia has lost as many troops in the last 7 months of fighting in Ukraine, (almost 54,000), than we lost in 10 YEARS in Vietnam! Their equipment losses are even more staggering.
This war is going horribly wrong for Putin. It is devastating Russia both morally, as well as economically. They can't keep this up, and Putin knows it. Last week someone from his elite inner circle gave up his location. They hit his limousine, and damaged it.
Ukraine is now taking back captured Russian territory with the advanced weapons they're receiving from us and other countries. The Javelin Missiles are proving to be devastating to their tanks and armored personnel carriers.
The people of Russia are turning against him, and he is on borrowed time. It's only a matter of time before they get him. He has cost the politically powerful Russian oligarchs there billions of dollars in seized property and currency worldwide. They are NOT happy with him.... And remember, they are the ones who put him in, and keep him in power.
And even if these numbers are inflated by 50%, it is still staggering.
Russia’s military death toll in Ukraine rises to 53,850
From February 24 to September 15, the Armed Forces of Ukraine eliminated about 53,850 Russian soldiers, including 200 servicemen over the past day. — Ukrinform.www.ukrinform.net
Being a newb, I wasn't around when this thread was started, but I'm here now and the retardation of this thread title caught my eye. Great prediction
The pro Ukrainian smooth brains are getting harder and harder to find. After the Ghost of Kiev was shot down in flames seems like the edge came off.@billt
Being a newb, I wasn't around when this thread was started, but I'm here now and the retardation of this thread title caught my eye. Great prediction
Within a year there will be a book written about the propaganda machine fueling the Ukrainian craze.
The hoax that Ukraine could defeat Russia with US tax dollars will stand right up there with the Trump-Russia collusion hoax, the George Floyd hoax, Hunter's laptop is Russian disinformation hoax, and the vaccine safe/effective hoax.
This type of late-stage-empire delusion goes back way further than 2016 - the present batch of neocons have been steeped in it since the late 90s, and they were inspired by the idiots that got us into SE Asia two generations ago.
Other than a blip of success in the mid-80s against the Soviets (something that proved to be a shining example of whining in the short-term to the detriment of the long term), we're looking at a half-century of strategic blundering and incompetence.
The winner writes history in their view. Well, that was how it was done until now. Right now the Pravda media is trying to come up with a storyline that's going to show how the uke's defeated the giant Russia and cover up the fact that the truth is the opposite. In 40 years there's going to be few people that know the truth and history will be written and taught to another generation. A history of lies
Ukraine and COVID.
Top two money laundering grifts in world history.
Top two money laundering grifts in world history.
Wealth transfer is a better description
So enough of the bullshit, why hasn't Russia won? It doesn't require a 4 paragraph dissertation to explain. Remember, this coming February 25th, this will have been going into its 3rd year. That's just 77 days from now. Ol Vlad isn't looking so good, is he?
I agree. And it appears many Russians do as well.
In Ukraine, Russia's Military Has A Manpower Problem. Now It's Becoming A Political Problem.
Russian officials are resorting to creative tools to keep military manpower in Ukraine at strength. That's causing grumbling, and public dissent, from relatives of exhausted soldiers. But if the Kremlin wants to decisively change the battlefield, they'll need a second mobilization.
www.rferl.org 
Don't forget global warming. It might be the biggest as it's been going for decades.
He doesn't want an escalation by overly expanding into northern Ukraine
He doesn't want to actually decimate the entire country
Russian economy is doing fine
US and EUs economy is not
In less than 2 years Ukraine is forcing women and old men to the front lines
Maybe he also enjoys reading posts claiming Ukraine is winning this shit?
He doesn't want to actually decimate the entire country
Russian economy is doing fine
US and EUs economy is not
In less than 2 years Ukraine is forcing women and old men to the front lines
Maybe he also enjoys reading posts claiming Ukraine is winning this shit?
Exactly
Do you know what the goals of Russia are ?
Denazification, demilitarization and liberation of a few territories were what Putin himself said. He also stated that the destruction of Ukraine was not part of the goal. You can do some digging and find that but it's been buried by the Pravda.
Bonus points for destroying over 40 USA biolabs in Ukraine, exposing corruption between the USA, Brits and the uke's and exposing the Pravda media.
So right now it looks like they are down to the demilitarization part.
He wants to win in Ukraine. He didn't invade to lose. He's not accomplishing that, period. And the Russian economy, (that you think is doing so wonderfully), is precisely why Putin cannot afford to escalate this war. (That, and because he'll get his ass kicked worse than is already happening).
He's between a rock and a hard place. He and he alone put himself there. And he's been there a while. And the longer he stays, the worse it's going to get for him.
Russia’s economy can withstand a long war, but not a more intense one
Its defences against Western sanctions can only stretch so far
Yeah, well guess what. When you go to war things get broken that cost a lot to fix. Just ask people currently living in their basements in Gaza.
How much of our cash has Brandon given to Uk for this war?
How much of our military hardware (and its cash value) has Brandon given to Uk?
Same questions for the other countries that have been chipping in?
Trump and even Obama once said Russia is not a military threat to us, and considering they haven't been able to take over Uk after 3 years proves that.
Didn't we learn our lesson from Vietnam and the mess we've been in in the ME since 911?
Didn't the gong show that was the pullout from Afghanistan prove Brandon and his administration are clueless on so many levels?
Now add in the Israel and Hamas war. How much money and arms is Brandon going to give to them?
I don't want to sound like a conspiracy theory nut but I keep remembering what Eisenhower said when he left office; beware the military industrial complex .
Time to keep our cash and equipment here at home.
How much of our military hardware (and its cash value) has Brandon given to Uk?
Same questions for the other countries that have been chipping in?
Trump and even Obama once said Russia is not a military threat to us, and considering they haven't been able to take over Uk after 3 years proves that.
Didn't we learn our lesson from Vietnam and the mess we've been in in the ME since 911?
Didn't the gong show that was the pullout from Afghanistan prove Brandon and his administration are clueless on so many levels?
Now add in the Israel and Hamas war. How much money and arms is Brandon going to give to them?
I don't want to sound like a conspiracy theory nut but I keep remembering what Eisenhower said when he left office; beware the military industrial complex .
Time to keep our cash and equipment here at home.
Russia has yet to win because we have poured all our money into sustaining the misery and delaying a result destined from the first moment Ukraine became Allie’s of team Stab you in the back money laundering USA
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To date around $75 billion. Basically a drop in the bucket. Especially when compared to the $150 billion a year we spend on illegal invaders entering this country, every year since Biden was elected. And don't forget if you want to put this in a better perspective.
The $6 billion Biden gave to Iran, would have rebuilt every single house and building on Maui that was destroyed in the fire. Instead, they got a one time payment of $700.00 per family.
So when you look at it in that perspective, a lousy $75 billion to keep Putin in check for going on almost 3 years now, is a bargain in comparison.
The Cost of Illegal Immigration to American Taxpayers 2023
The fiscal burden of providing essential services and benefits to illegal aliens costs American taxpayers nearly $151 billion each year.
Putin in check of what?To date around $75 billion. Basically a drop in the bucket. Especially when compared to the $150 billion a year we spend on illegal invaders entering this country, every year since Biden was elected. And don't forget if you want to put this in a better perspective.
The $6 billion Biden gave to Iran, would have rebuilt every single house and building on Maui that was destroyed in the fire. Instead, they got a one time payment of $700.00 per family.
So when you look at it in that perspective, a lousy $75 billion to keep Putin in check for going on almost 3 years now, is a bargain in comparison.
The Cost of Illegal Immigration to American Taxpayers 2023
The fiscal burden of providing essential services and benefits to illegal aliens costs American taxpayers nearly $151 billion each year.www.fairus.org
Oh yeah he was martialing his tanks to run the Fulda gap until those pesky Ukrainian kids diverted his attention.
I thought he had given them more than that. I do agree with the the points you made.To date around $75 billion. Basically a drop in the bucket. Especially when compared to the $150 billion a year we spend on illegal invaders entering this country, every year since Biden was elected. And don't forget if you want to put this in a better perspective.
The $6 billion Biden gave to Iran, would have rebuilt every single house and building on Maui that was destroyed in the fire. Instead, they got a one time payment of $700.00 per family.
So when you look at it in that perspective, a lousy $75 billion to keep Putin in check for going on almost 3 years now, is a bargain in comparison.
The Cost of Illegal Immigration to American Taxpayers 2023
The fiscal burden of providing essential services and benefits to illegal aliens costs American taxpayers nearly $151 billion each year.
Yeah, I get it. We launder money through Ukraine. Just like we have countless other countries in the past. And will continue to do so in the future with other countries yet to be named.... This all regardless of what happens to either Putin or Ukraine.
And for what it's worth we haven't, "poured all our money" into Ukraine. $75 billion to this country over a 2 year period, is a beer fart in a hurricane.
Stop with your bullshit dramatics. Do you think if we, (along with NATO), had not pumped up Ukraine with arms and ammunition, Putin would be stagnated to the point he now is, and will remain?
Also don't forget that NATO has given Ukraine an estimated $30 Billion to date as well.
Gee your right another billion here or there though this could become real money.
Tired of people minimizing the fucking.
Ukraine is just one of many fuckings.
Yes our own border costs far exceed the blue and yellow fucking.
Perhaps the outrage of the Ukraine is that our fucking there is justified in ensuring Ukraine has exactly what we are being denied in our other fuckings.
This is pretty much exactly what and how much we've given them to date. None of this includes what NATO, along with the European Union have put forth in weapons and financial assistance.
You need to be thinking about something other than, "fucking". Perhaps increasing your literary skills and vocabulary, to convey your point above 4th grade knuckle dragging.
The Russian economy is smaller than the single state of California as well as a few others Texas, NY.
This was about sustaining a corrupt system in the cost of blood.
You are the dramatic one aftaid of the BoogeyPutin.
Driving alone in your car with your mask on has been depriving your rational thought brains of oxygen.
Do I agree with Putin going into Ukraine….he is an idiot…he fell into a trap. His justification is we kept pushing the button we knew he would not accept so I don’t see us as blameless….thank you Victoria Nuland!
America has a new flavor of the month - dirty green sweatshirt man is being abandoned. As they do so now we have DOD idiots threatening us that the cost will be in American blood.
Nah Bruh! Take the DEI warriors and BLM crowds. Only borders worth protecting are right here and it’s not happening.
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Are you that UA sniper dude with a better translator?
No one "set a trap" for Putin. Like many dictators before him, and the many that will follow after, he became a victim of his own damn creation. He thought he was bigger and tougher than he was.
He also thought people were more afraid of him than than they were, or are. Now he's paying the price for his stupid overestimation of himself.
No, others are paying the ultimate price for it, not him.
No. Unlike you I can speak in a complete sentence without constantly inserting "fuck" into most every one of them, as you try to make up for what obviously is a lack of literary and vocabulary skills.
Agree. However it will ultimately all come back to stick on him.
Get in an airplane and go.
Put your feelings and mouth on the line.
The Ukraine BS heated up in 2014 and if you haven’t got to at least that date for the fuckery involved than you are speaking to us with history from MiniHistory.
Our grooming them for this started in 1992. Nunn-Lugar set up a nice operation.
You will be voting for Y Vindmann in the Virginia elections I assume.
Fuck those Ukrainians in America too.
Now you are a professor of English language.
Why so sensitive to language while accepting craven bloodshed?
Your neocon is showing.
Naw they're doing it on purpose. They want to be at war with someone every year and it doesn't matter if the USA "wins" or "loses" as long as we spend money on it. We've given money and equipment to Saudi Arabia who were fighting a proxy war in Yemen the last 10 years but nobody noticed or cared.
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