From what I know, the approved forms will be emailed to the dealer.
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My dealer got my can checked in and assigned to me in 24hrs, took me about another day to get my stamp and new pics updated, docusign done, and then the following day was able to certify. Was sent to ATF that evening and now waiting. Couldn’t be happier with the process just curious to see if it will get approved before my can I got in July does.
Does anyone that has completed the eforms process and are at “Certified and Awaiting ATF approval” show anything on the ATF’s eforms website? Under “My forms” on the atf eforms website, I show “no saved items found” and “no current alerts”.
I would expect to see something on their website indicating they are processing my eform form 4 that was submitted on 1/16/2022.
I would expect to see something on their website indicating they are processing my eform form 4 that was submitted on 1/16/2022.
Is anyone getting a check cashed email from SIlencer shop like they did with paper forms? Or does the eform not tell you when it’s cashed or is it done instantly when certifying?
Yep. I called the dealer and they were able to look on thier eforms account and it show “submitted and in process”
True, but IMO it would have made sense for the system to duplicate it in the account of both accounts who signed off. They need that log in and PIN number for a reason. If not to give you visibility, then why?
Agreed. If this were a private enterprise, and not the government, that is exactly the way it would be. You should be able to see every step of the process in your account. That is the way countless company websites operate; too logical I guess.
I don’t disagree. Poorly written requirements implemented poorly, I’m sure.
Has anyone else received an email from ATF like this after certifying?
Dear ATF eForms account user,
This email serves as a reminder that your access to ATF’s eForms portal is conditioned upon continued compliance with the ATF eForms rules of behavior.
The ATF eForms rules of behavior expressly states that “the USERID, password, and PIN are to be used solely for personal use, or in connection with the performance of your work-related responsibilities as a bona fide employee if your responsibilities require the use of ATF’s eForms on behalf of a business entity. Use of your USERID, password, or PIN by anyone other than yourself is expressly prohibited.”
Further, the ATF eForms rules of behavior states that “a federal firearms licensee (FFL) cannot submit any eForm on behalf of a customer or another FFL where the customer or other FFL must have their own account.” This means that the submission of any ATF eForm must be made by the appropriate account holder. For example, an FFL may not submit an eForm 1 on behalf of a maker because the FFL is not the maker of the firearm. Similarly, an FFL cannot use another FFL’s eForms account to submit any eForm on behalf of the other FFL.
Violations of the ATF eForms rules of behavior is considered a breach of system security and will result in ATF taking action against your ATF eForms account, up to and including account termination.
Dear ATF eForms account user,
This email serves as a reminder that your access to ATF’s eForms portal is conditioned upon continued compliance with the ATF eForms rules of behavior.
The ATF eForms rules of behavior expressly states that “the USERID, password, and PIN are to be used solely for personal use, or in connection with the performance of your work-related responsibilities as a bona fide employee if your responsibilities require the use of ATF’s eForms on behalf of a business entity. Use of your USERID, password, or PIN by anyone other than yourself is expressly prohibited.”
Further, the ATF eForms rules of behavior states that “a federal firearms licensee (FFL) cannot submit any eForm on behalf of a customer or another FFL where the customer or other FFL must have their own account.” This means that the submission of any ATF eForm must be made by the appropriate account holder. For example, an FFL may not submit an eForm 1 on behalf of a maker because the FFL is not the maker of the firearm. Similarly, an FFL cannot use another FFL’s eForms account to submit any eForm on behalf of the other FFL.
Violations of the ATF eForms rules of behavior is considered a breach of system security and will result in ATF taking action against your ATF eForms account, up to and including account termination.
I’ve received it twice. I think it’s something they will send out repeatedly so no one can claim they didn’t know
Haha I’m glad I wasn’t the only one to get that email. My dealer did say to ignore the ATF email that I would get but this took me by surprise.
Did everybody in your militia group get it? Were you guys getting paranoid?Just kidding. It's obviously a standard disclaimer email that everyone received
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I got it, too. Not a surprise that this has been an issue considering what a PITA it was for me to be able to type my credentials in.
I have a customer, i’ll call him “Three Jimmy James”, because holy shit he is paranoid. One rubber just ain't enough! He just bought his first couple NFA items. I bet he’s waiting for the ATF to kick his door any minute.Did everybody in your militia group get it? Were you guys getting paranoid?
He’ll be reading this shortly, but he wont deny it!
If you are stuck at “preparing forms” and have not called your dealer, call your dealer. The ATF website is likely the bottle neck. Be polite and the person banging their head against the software might just push yours through while you wait. Worked for me.
Help please.
I purchased a silencer here and had it transferred to a local silencer shop kiosk. After waiting a month I have finally gotten an electronic version(not sure if it’s eform 4 or not). It has all my typical info as it should and I’m being asked to sign it. How do I know if this is the old school form 4 or the new e form version? I obviously want the eform version but don’t want to go too far as the folks locally I’m dealing with are not real familiar.
I purchased a silencer here and had it transferred to a local silencer shop kiosk. After waiting a month I have finally gotten an electronic version(not sure if it’s eform 4 or not). It has all my typical info as it should and I’m being asked to sign it. How do I know if this is the old school form 4 or the new e form version? I obviously want the eform version but don’t want to go too far as the folks locally I’m dealing with are not real familiar.
That’s the problem. They don’t give me the feeling that they have any idea of the process. I’m the one who told them the process was different and about the e form 4.
Unless you actively opted out, Silencer Shop automatically pushed all form 4s to the electronic system. I bought a suppressor just before thanksgiving and it went e-form. I’d say that if you purchased after that, you can be relatively certain it is an e-form.
After purchasing Dec 2, i finally certified this morning. I received the confirmation email from atfband copies of application. I have a Jr (suffix). While Jr is listed at the top of the application in my name, it wasnt used in the signature. Is that a potential issue?
I guess im paranoid as a first time suppressor buyer and the frustration of the whole efile process.
I guess im paranoid as a first time suppressor buyer and the frustration of the whole efile process.
You can sign however the F you want. Your signature is just your signature. They don’t even need to be legible. But, all of the typed info needs to match all of your ID docs. For example, If your DL says Jr, the App needs Jr.
Ok, thanks. It does have my full name with the Jr suffix everywhere except the signature and line 13 of application(transferer necessity statement). On both the signature and line 13 it has my first/middle/last and the word "self"
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Well we should be getting close to some approvals if the 60-90 days wasn’t complete bullshit
I sure hope so. My wait started Feb 1st so I’m curious if I can get mine in around May.
NFA Transfer Time Tracking NFA Reviews Form 1 Form 4 Tracking
Tracking and reporting NFA Form 1 and Form 4 transfer times reported by users. Dedicated to the NFA community and 2nd amendment supporters. Provide data to build and unify the NFA community.
www.nfatracker.com Not sure where they get their stats from, as the Efile form 4 hasn't been open for 200+ days, but it is a data point...
I’m about the same time as you. Hopping for the best. But not holding my breath.
I don't believe that's the same, I remember asking my SOT about e-filing long before the ATF announced this new Efile. They said its like $10k to get set up to do Efiles and didn't speed things up all that much. Sounds like a paperless version of the traditional form 4 but went through the exact same process.View attachment 7819016
NFA Transfer Time Tracking NFA Reviews Form 1 Form 4 Tracking
Tracking and reporting NFA Form 1 and Form 4 transfer times reported by users. Dedicated to the NFA community and 2nd amendment supporters. Provide data to build and unify the NFA community.
Not sure where they get their stats from, as the Efile form 4 hasn't been open for 200+ days, but it is a data point...
I finally got to certify this afternoon took about 40 minutes as the ATFE website kept crashing. Ordered the suppressor November 12, 2021. My dealer was so pissed about the entire process he joked if I do my next one paper file he will pay for the tax stamp.
Probably someone who had a paper form 4 from a year ago and they did an approval on all items under that name.
Just filled out my second silencershop
Purchase yesterday… already in the database so very easy!
Got e-signature email about 3 hours later.
Need to stop by dealer for a signature in a few days.
But here’s hoping that 90 days Is the magic number!
Sirhr
Purchase yesterday… already in the database so very easy!
Got e-signature email about 3 hours later.
Need to stop by dealer for a signature in a few days.
But here’s hoping that 90 days Is the magic number!
Sirhr
They tried yesterday and it still had problems. Maybe next week will work.
I think I remember earlier in the thread that hanson brothers and some members had gotten e file in on the 21/22/23rd. Hopefully they can chime in if they had any come back for them yet
Okay, I see one person got theirs in a timely manner. Anyone else, or was that fluke?
Online I've seen about 4 posted so far.
I'm at the 2 month mark, hoping I get mine in a couple weeks.
