Someone murdered Charlie Kirk

Excellent point.

The problem in English is that we use the noun "justice" to both describe functions and departments of the legal system but also as a synonym for fairness. The left exploits this inevitable ambiguity.

German has a seperate word "Justiz" for the legal system and uses "Gerechtigkeit" for what we call fairness in English.
The court(room) is interestingly "Gericht", which implies that this is a place where the law "Recht" is supposed to be administered fairly.

Note: do not worry about the pronunciation, just observe how the spelling indicates in which way the words relate or not.
The author William Gaddis, who wrote satires about some of American culture's more ridiculous things, devoted his fourth novel to satirizing the American "justice" system. He opens the novel with the following sentiment: "Justice? That's for the next world. In this world we have the law."

A Frolic of His Own, by William Gaddis, is the novel. And it does a great job satirizing our "justice" system. When you consider he wrote and published the novel over 30 years ago, you might say he predicted the current situation.

He more or less predicted the junk bond etc fallout on Wall Street during the late 80s/early 90s, with a novel called "JR" that he wrote & published in the 1970s.
 
I swear to God the trolls in my town.......People been asking about memorial events and the Lib-trolls are out in force.

It probably a good thing i left early for a match as the useful idiots were out protesting and if I saw any signs i take issue with I might have to have a word of polite discussion.

It really adds nothing, i just gotta vent or I'm gonna end up in county lockup.
Come on man! It wouldn’t hurt that bad to spend the night in the pokey.
 
I don’t buy into the BS about a bullet cannot move a body. Hollywood BS about someone being shot by a shotgun or whatever and then blasting through a wall is that BS.

Now I have shot too many ground hogs and squirrels to know yep, a bullet can move a body.

Depends on the bullet and energy and the size of the body.

Don’t buy into this Myth Busters BS until you can explain how shooting a squirrel or a prairie dog can send them flying through the air.

Having said that, I have killed 50+ deer and none of them went flying into the air. Too say that a bullet cannot move a body is not a absolute.

I’ve shot a bunch of whitetail deer, mule deer and antelope and quite honestly I could not tell if they moved.

Also, with the above mentioned game, I have had multiple times that there was no exit wound. That’s from 90 grain Sierra game kings at less than 200 yards with a mv of 3600 fsp. Similar results with Berger bullets. 130 yards with 6.5 129 Noslers at 3400 fps. Unless someone on here has experience shooting a person in the neck at 130-200 yards, this is all speculation.
Yeah a squirrel and a human are definitely equivalent
 
Ok. I'll play. So, what's the answer? Stick with our beliefs and understanding of limited, liberal government? Or what? Go full on Right Wing totalitarianism? Curtail rights and freedoms because some people abuse them?

I have an insight for you. "Diversity" is not a virtue. "Diversity" is merely a side effect of liberty, because across cultures and peoples there isn't anyone who wishes for a boot on their necks. Offer something intrinsic to the human condition that allows everyone to define and pursue their own definition of happiness, and everybody is going to want some. You don't have to sell it. The only people who want Marxism are people who've never lived under it. The strongest defenders of liberty and human rights are those who've suffered under Marxism in all it's forms.

Since WWII the Scandinavian countries have been held up as shining examples that socialism can and does work. about twenty or thirty years ago they took a right turn, and today they have largely abandoned socialism except for their well funded and sober public pension funds. Socialism works when everyone is the same in fact, when everyone defines happiness the same way, and when everyone wants the same things. When everyone shares the same language, religion, values, morals, and ethics offering everyone the same thing works. It just does, and the vast majority of people are happy. Introduce "diversity" and the whole thing falls apart, because they share none of that, and so they have.

To be a socialist or communist in America is to exist in a perpetual state of cognitive dissonance. You have to be for things that are diametrically opposed to each other, like the example of being for a side effect, and then for a system that collapses under that side effect. Like being "Pro Union", and then being for flooding the labor market with unskilled labor that can't even communicate.

We don't have to go authoritarian or totalitarian, because liberty works, and the alternative doesn't. That is my belief. The more they win the more they loose, because their ideology is a very faulty one.

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So I’m supposed to believe Bibi made the call because Charlie was turning on Israel. With all of the resources Mossad/CIA/Deep State etc, they opted for an open air gunshot with an elaborate tranny love story involving local police and the Feds. They’re awesome at this but managed to miscalculate the overwhelming support for Kirk and TPUSA. If Bibi truly wanted him to shut up, this assassination turned him into a martyr and more people than ever are listening to his words. Thousands of new chapter requests and his old videos are everywhere. Also the loudest voices claiming Israel put out the hit are still living so there’s that as well. Mossad doesn’t screw up this bad.

Thinking critically, a real hit on Kirk and TPUSA would be a character assassination. Mossad and the CIA are perfectly capable of staging a salacious drug overdose or erotic asphyxiation. Imagine the story of Kirk found dead in a seedy hotel room with another guy while millions is missing from Turning Point and surprise there’s child porn on his phone. That would be an immediate shut down of all things Kirk and Turning Point would be bankrupt. In the digital age, this is how someone gets silenced.
OK, now ask yourself the following questions post event,

Who had the ability to plan, inject confusion, play on sentiments, and stage the event into its post, perception?
Whose agenda is furthered by this event?
Always ask the above questions about any event, no matter which side you're on.
Years ago the 5 basic words the media was always guided by were the 5 W's,
Who, What, Where, When, (& the most important), Why.
Now all we see are agendas being presented, disguised as news.

In confusion there is opportunity, and in today's America, opportunity abounds.
Now for the last question, Would either side in a war sacrifice one, for the greater good?
Never look at events as presented, always think out of the box for yourself. Never ever forget, in today's world professional shills, are but a single payment away.
 
I know other guys here have more experience with .30-06 than I do. I've killed one deer with it, watched my son kill 2 others with the same rifle. Mine and 1 of his went thru the shoulder socket and passed thru. And no, I don't mean the shoulder blade.

Color me skeptical about this report. Miraculous indeed, if true.
I had a classmate in high school that was deer hunting and was shot by his own gun in the neck with a 30-06. He lived, but just barely. Huge damage. Very long surgery and several follow-up ones. They ended up skin grafting from his ass to his neck. Obviously it didn’t hit anything so critically that it was immediately fatal, but it was close and the pics were insane.

I have taken lots of animals with that caliber. Through bone. The damage is authoritative. I don’t believe this X post at all.
 
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And along those lines. Would it be too much to ask if people just finally admitted we have a Jew problem in this country? If that's not abundantly clear --you're a fucking RETARD. That is not racist. That is just fact.
You're an anti Semite, bigot, racist, fascist, Nazi!!!!
Did I cover them all??

PS: we don't have a sarcasm font
 
And along those lines. Would it be too much to ask if people just finally admitted we have a Jew problem in this country? If that's not abundantly clear --you're a fucking RETARD. That is not racist. That is just fact.

A Jew problem. Huh, that’s sounds oddly familier…

Maybe while we’re getting rid of the Jews, we should get rid of all the blacks too. If you don’t see black crime as a problem, then you’re an idiot. Let’s go after all of them. Then maybe we can go after Mexicans. Then gays. Hell, let’s get rid of them too.

Not “racist”.. Just facts…..🙄
 
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A Jew problem. Huh, that’s sounds oddly familier…

Maybe while we’re getting rid of the Jews, we should get rid of all the blacks too. If you don’t see black crime as a problem, then you’re an idiot. Let’s hinder all of them. Then we can go after Mexicans. Gays are a problem. Let’s get rid of them too.

Not “racist”.. Just facts…..🙄
I don't see where he said to "get rid of" anyone.
Freudian slip?
 
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I don't see where he said to "get rid of" anyone.
Freudian slip?


Exactly. 👆

When AIPAC provides massive political funding for every single Congressman, save what 1 or 2?... And even provides then their own personal handler to "help" (force) them to vote "right" ... ? We have a Jewish problem. I live in an area of huge Jewish population. I am not Antisemitic, not by a long shot in fact I'll tell/told my Jewish friends that to their faces.
 
I don't see where he said to "get rid of" anyone.
Freudian slip?

No it starts off by demonizing an entire people by painting them all with one broad brush stroke.

Do we have a “Jew” problem?
Do we have a “black” problem?
Do we have a “Mexican” problem?
Do we have an “Arab” problem?

Just Call it what it is. Remember we don’t get to change the definitions of things just to justify our stance.

We have a sin problem. We have policy problems. Its exclusive to the human race.
We need to fix some of our policies. I don’t disagree with that.
 
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Then how the hell do you define it.
Ok We have a Jewish ISSUE? Better? :cool:

It IS one group.
It IS an ISSUE.

To not define it as an ISSUE is an ISSUE. Call it what it is. A problem.
Or you like "challenge" better?

And calling it what is is not demonizing anyone. Too bad if it's not PC enough.
 
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Then how the hell do you define it.
Ok We have a Jewish ISSUE? Better? :cool:

It IS one goupr.
It IS an ISSUE.

To not define it as an ISSUE is an ISSUE. Call it what it is. A problem.

We have policy issues that we need to fix. 100%. I don’t disagree with you on that.

We have policy issues that contribute to high crime rates in certain cities and states. It’s policy that contribute to these issues. We don’t just go out and start blaming all blacks for it. They’re not all part of that problem. Just like not all Jews are part of the problem. Not an excuse to demonize and entire race of people.
 
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No it starts off by demonizing an entire people by painting them all with one broad brush stroke.

Do we have a “Jew” problem?
Do we have a “black” problem?
Do we have a “Mexican” problem?
Do we have an “Arab” problem?

Just Call it what it is. Remember we don’t get to change the definitions of things just to justify our stance.

We have a sin problem. We have policy problems. Its exclusive to the human race.
Seems like you are the one changing things that were written. He said recognize the problem.
As for your questions. Yes we do for all of the groups in your list. I can add a few more to help you.
Welfare recipients
Drug addicts
People with mental defects

The only person painting with a broad brush is you
 
We have policy issues that we need to fix. 100%. I don’t disagree with you on that.

We have policy issues that contribute to high crime rates in certain cities and states. It’s policy that contribute to these issues. We don’t just go out and start blaming all blacks for it. They’re not all part of that problem. Just like not all Jews are part of the problem. Not an excuse to demonize and entire race of people.
It's the policies fault that a certain group is causing 80% + of the crime?
 
So all of the recent violence; Charlie assassination,
Girl stabbed ,
ABC shot up in Cali ,
Tard shooting up wedding in NH ,
has got me thinking .
If there really is an attack on Oct 7 will Conservatives have had enough .
Just a question .
 
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I’m staying FAR away from that area.
It is WAY too big of a target for all kinds of groups with evil agendas.

I’d like to go but it’s a 2+ hour drive for me. Still thinking about it. Charlie Kirk shooting has fundamentally changed how I look at politics in this country.
 
I’d like to go but it’s a 2+ hour drive for me. Still thinking about it. Charlie Kirk shooting has fundamentally changed how I look at politics in this country.

100%

This will come to pass as probably the biggest shock to the system since JFK/MLK --probably even bigger because it's deeper than political. We are in a spiritual Global war against evil. Nothing could make it more clear.
 
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This is the type of messaging that tells everyone that you are a bigot while complaining that people call you a bigot.

bigot /ˈbiɡət/
a person who is obstinately or unreasonably attached to a belief, opinion, or faction, especially one who is prejudiced against or antagonistic toward a person or people on the basis of their membership of a particular group.

That's exactly the type of identity politics that we are trying to get rid of.

Instead, we should oppose greedbags (all, including jewish), pedophiles (all, including jewish), warmongers (all, including jewish), wokesters (all, including jewish), etc. without pretending that these issues are exclusive to one particular faith or nationality.
 
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This is the type of messaging that tells everyone that you are a bigot while complaining that people call you a bigot.

bigot /ˈbiɡət/
a person who is obstinately or unreasonably attached to a belief, opinion, or faction, especially one who is prejudiced against or antagonistic toward a person or people on the basis of their membership of a particular group.

That's exactly the type of identity politics that we are trying to get rid of.

Instead, we should oppose greedbags (all, including jewish), pedophiles (all, including jewish), warmongers (all, including jewish), wokesters (all, including jewish), etc. without pretending that these issues are exclusive to one particular faith or nationality.
Stereotypes exist for a reason

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109 countries.

The nuclear coin clipping that is the fed reserve

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Ok so, using your argument,

“XXX” race is a problem.

Changing policy is a waste of time and won’t fix it.

What do you suggest??
Now we have come full circle.
It's not the policies (sorta) but those that made up the policies and enforce them.
Now ask yourself what group has control over those policy makers? Who spends the money to put those people in place?
 
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