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Night Vision FLIR T70 & T75 specs

SkyPup yes it does! Its a TAU! Did you get your T60 from SPI? If not you must have got it from a dealer of theirs whom bought them from SPI, SPI was selling them at $10,500 and made the video out cable, they included it for free, FLIR wanted $600 for this cable.
SPI were the only company to sell the T60 as they bought all of them directly from FLIR. The T70 is great, so is the Insight L3 LWTS AN/PAS-13V. Its up to the customer to decide which one is better, and which one is best for the money.

That is awesome on the IRON Pallett. The video out cable on the T-60 has the most unavailable connector I have ever seen to build your own short cable, cannot find the interface anywhere and I have had some professional people look around for me, all I need is a one foot cable, not a three foot cable. If you have one shorter I would be happy to purchase same. SPI also included the free very high quality waterproof DVR with the T-60, this is one of the best portable mini DVR available anywhere.

And yes I did get my T-60 from you, Jim, it is an awesome instrument and has killed hundreds of hogs and coyotes with zero down time and zero problems. I kinda like my T-50 better due to manual display adjustments.

In my mind, the other thermals I am purchasing are mil-spec FLIR, they simply have outstanding customer service and customer service personnel and a great warranty as I will be using these things for years to come...
 
Wow, Iron pallette on the T70 might sway me. Does the T70 have manual adjusments in terms of brightness? I ordered the amber from TNVC, hopefully that will help on the T60
 
Yes the FLIR T60 cables are special, we spent $10,000 on only 100 connectors, very expensive, however I just made you a 6inch cable for FREE! See photo! t60 cable.jpg
 

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Holy Mackeral, that is awesome, I have been trying to have one made for a year now. The long OEM cable is such a hassle to take out into the woods hiking as it gets snagged on all sorts of brush, I only use it when I am on my property on my stands as it has been cleared out well.

I will gladly pay you for the cable and shipping, Jim, that is not a problem. I mount the DVR onto the rail on some velcro in front of the FLIR T-60 and behind my LDI DBAL-D2 where it is easy for me to setup and operate and keep on standby until I want to start shooting. This short cable will be perfect and I can zip tie it onto the rail if it is too loose.

Let me know where to send the money for payment and shipping!
 
No charge, We will not charge you for the T60 cable, all of you guys have created a nice blog on how good the T60 is, and we appreciate it, yall gave it a great reputation,
how about taking a beautiful photo of the DVR velcrow set up on your rifle for everyone? We really want to see it, and consider the T60 cable a nice free gift!
Jim Santana
 
I've got it set up on my rifle laying out in my stand in the backyard now, I'll go take a pic of it....
 
Here is the DVR sitting on some velcro on the rail in front of the T-60. You can see the cable wrapped in electrical tape to try to keep it from getting snagged on brush and minimize it catching on things, but still I only use it on my stand behind my house.

The cable is about three feet long and has a BNC connector on it and a BNC-RCA connector on the end of that to run to the DVR. A short cable would be ideal.

I talked to FLIR Government Systems engineers about this at the Shot Show and the video connector going into the T60 unit itself is some kind of obscure military setup they said made in Switzerland and none of the electrical engineers I know could find me an interface for it...

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Here is the DVR sitting on some velcro on the rail in front of the T-60. You can see the cable wrapped in electrical tape to try to keep it from getting snagged on brush and minimize it catching on things, but still I only use it on my stand behind my house.

The cable is about three feet long and has a BNC connector on it and a BNC-RCA connector on the end of that to run to the DVR. A short cable would be ideal.

I talked to FLIR Government Systems engineers about this at the Shot Show and the video connector going into the T60 unit itself is some kind of obscure military setup they said made in Switzerland and none of the electrical engineers I know could find me an interface for it...

All you need to do is cut the cable to the desired length, and re-terminate the cable on the end where the RCA plug was -- and you're done. Inside the cable, the wires are no different than what is typically used in other electronics to transmit data and power.

For imaging, I've set up the T60 to stream it's video output over IP forwarding to the Internet (the IT designs for this are in a prior post). From the Internet, any wireless computing device using IP can receive the streaming image from the T60. In a previous example, I have the T60 output streaming over wireless comms to an iPad.

I've configured the same to work with an iPhone connected via KAC mount interfaced to M1913 Picatinny rail on the rifle. Custom software allows me to have ballistic calculator and a window with the streaming image from the T60, showing on the iPhone at the same time. Overlaying similar image feeds, at unity, from PVS-22 gives dual-band (fusion) imaging as good or better than any ADUNS, but for only a fraction of the cost.

Feeding the fused, dual-band image back to any optic with video overlay capability (such as SENVG) or video projection capability (such as Google glasses) creates a whole new level of user empowerment, especially when the aiming reticule is superimposed.

With these new mash-up approaches, the only things expected from the sensor device itself are the highest sensitivity, capture rate, and resolution possible. All the bells and whistles stuff like color palettes can be added later in the processing stream, via software, at much lower cost than building it into the sensor hardware or at the firmware level.

For me and the work I do, the future (mash-up imaging) is already here. Therefore, unless a "new" portable thermal sensor can at least double the existing resolution, which means 4x the pixel density covering the same FOV, I'm not particularly moved or impressed with it as being much of a technological advancement. This statement is not directed at you but is made in the context of other discussion in this thread about the cost-benefits of upgrading one's clip-on thermal weapons imager within the same class of intended use (example: small arms, assault rifle).

IR-V
 
All you need to do is cut the cable to the desired length, and re-terminate the cable on the end where the RCA plug was -- and you're done. Inside the cable, the wires are no different than what is typically used in other electronics to transmit data and power.

For imaging, I've set up the T60 to stream it's video output over IP forwarding to the Internet (the IT designs for this are in a prior post). From the Internet, any wireless computing device using IP can receive the streaming image from the T60. In a previous example, I have the T60 output streaming over wireless comms to an iPad.

I've configured the same to work with an iPhone connected via KAC mount interfaced to M1913 Picatinny rail on the rifle. Custom software allows me to have ballistic calculator and a window with the streaming image from the T60, showing on the iPhone at the same time. Overlaying similar image feeds, at unity, from PVS-22 gives dual-band (fusion) imaging as good or better than any ADUNS, but for only a fraction of the cost.

Feeding the fused, dual-band image back to any optic with video overlay capability (such as SENVG) or video projection capability (such as Google glasses) creates a whole new level of user empowerment, especially when the aiming reticule is superimposed.

With these new mash-up approaches, the only things expected from the sensor device itself are the highest sensitivity, capture rate, and resolution possible. All the bells and whistles stuff like color palettes can be added later in the processing stream, via software, at much lower cost than building it into the sensor hardware or at the firmware level.

For me and the work I do, the future (mash-up imaging) is already here. Therefore, unless a "new" portable thermal sensor can at least double the existing resolution, which means 4x the pixel density covering the same FOV, I'm not particularly moved or impressed with it as being much of a technological advancement. This statement is not directed at you but is made in the context of other discussion in this thread about the cost-benefits of upgrading one's clip-on thermal weapons imager within the same class of intended use (example: small arms, assault rifle).

IR-V

Nice ingenuity on that one Irv. ;-)

Vic
 
Thanks once again, IR-V, you don't miss a thing! Once I get that new connector from SPI I will cut the one I have and re-rig it. I was afraid to cut the cable as I figured it was like a 75ohm coaxial cable and I might mess it up somehow and then I would be stuck without anything to use. A wire-less transmitter would be the best bet to get rid of the cables, but I am not that high-tech yet....much appreciate all the advice and knowledge as this kind of information is hard to come by.
 
Nice ingenuity on that one Irv. ;-)

Vic

Thanks, Vic! One of the more fun variations of this mash-up imaging theme, on the presentation side, was to open the guts on a pocket pico projector to leverage its image processor but replace the wimpy "eye safe" visible laser diodes with IR laser diodes rated at 3000 mW each. Then, using this set-up to project the fused thermal and i^2 image data collected from field level sensors onto a mountainside overlooking the ground-level, simulated combat zones. To see live, streaming video of the composite "combat theater" on the side of a mountain, visible only to night vision, in the darkness of night, brings a whole new meaning and experience to the concepts of "combat theater" and "war games". :)

IR-V
 
Thanks once again, IR-V, you don't miss a thing! Once I get that new connector from SPI I will cut the one I have and re-rig it. I was afraid to cut the cable as I figured it was like a 75ohm coaxial cable and I might mess it up somehow and then I would be stuck without anything to use. A wire-less transmitter would be the best bet to get rid of the cables, but I am not that high-tech yet....much appreciate all the advice and knowledge as this kind of information is hard to come by.

Welcome, SkyPup! Always glad to help. RF wireless is great for the local data transmissions (feeding from the sensor devices) with Cellular wireless data post uplink to the Internet for broadcast to the presentation devices, which can be a PC box, notebook PC, iPad, iPhone, Android, etc. If you configure the IP forwarding correctly, you can remotely control and record to a DVD inside your home as "command center" but over the Internet, from your portable electronic devices that have web browsing capability. You want to make Verizon, AT&T into your mule (versus having to tote more back-end electronics and cables into the field with you) :)

Unfortunately, we don't have wireless "power" beyond what will run a tiny RFID chip, so don't forget that the port on your T60 allows you to not only connect out on video feed, but to connect in, simultaneously, from an external power source. That's why I developed the portable, 8-hour, rechargeable, battery, belt packs for the T60. Otherwise, the suck on CR123 batteries in the field is prodigious. Even with the lower cost of Surefire batteries, going through a 148 count pack every month is a bit daunting to the wallet.

IR-V
 
SPI was super nice to ship me a replacement cable for my T-60 video output, should have it later this week and will try it out.

This should allow me to take more hunting action videos with the FLIR thermal at night!
 
Hello all,

I know that this thread is a bit old but I am hoping somebody may still be reading it. I have recently found out that civilians can own a thermal scope and have now jumped on the band wagon of needing to have one. It appears from the discussions that the LWTS or the T70 are the only two to really consider based on their specs and versatility. I am leaning towards the pricier T70 primarily due to the "2-5-10" year warranty offered by FLIR on their products. If I am going to spend that type of money on something like this I will go with the company that stands behind their products. Does anyone have a T70 yet? Anyone have any more pics of them mounted? Where is the best place to order one? Thanks for your help!
 
I do not have one yet, but I will when they are released to the public.

This is a 100% Mil-Spec weapon mounted unit made 100% by FLIR, that is all I need to know as I plan on using all my FLIRs constantly in hardcore hunting applications over the next decade.

Maybe TNVC or SPI can update on projected availability???
 
I spoke with FLIR yesterday. The cable, that SPI claims to cost $600.00 is bogus!!!!! It was mentioned, that SPI no longer will carry FLIR products. Since Thermalspy works for SPI, he's aware of this. We won't be hearing much about the "SEAL" test, because FLIR ask for the T70 to be returned immediately.
 
I spoke with FLIR yesterday. The cable, that SPI claims to cost $600.00 is bogus!!!!! It was mentioned, that SPI no longer will carry FLIR products. Since Thermalspy works for SPI, he's aware of this. We won't be hearing much about the "SEAL" test, because FLIR ask for the T70 to be returned immediately.
Is this true? I bought last FLIR unit (T60) from them.
 
Update from our FLIR Reps...T-70's will available from TNVC in early to mid August. They got pushed out a bit. Hope this helps.

Vic
 
Ha! Just in time for my birthday, hopefully to be celebrated with some fresh thermally annihilated BBQ.....

Update from our FLIR Reps...T-70's will available from TNVC in early to mid August. They got pushed out a bit. Hope this helps.

Vic
 
SkyPup yes it does! Its a TAU! Did you get your T60 from SPI? If not you must have got it from a dealer of theirs whom bought them from SPI, SPI was selling them at $10,500 and made the video out cable, they included it for free, FLIR wanted $600 for this cable.

FLIR wanted $450+ for a T50 battery module. The little plastic thing that holds the batteries. So do not lose it if you have a T50.
 
FLIR wanted $450+ for a T50 battery module. The little plastic thing that holds the batteries. So do not lose it if you have a T50.



Did FLIR tell you that or did SPI tell you that?
 
FLIR, that was supposed to be a discounted rate. Something about the volume they make them in and having to assemble them by hand.
No doubt they make great stuff. But there are other options.
 
Had the opportunity to go on a hog hunt with WiesGuy from FLIR, got to look through a T-70, TANS, and a few other units that are not on the market even to the DOD yet...

Needless to say I was impressed with the T-70, I believe they will be priced around $15,999 ish,
Started saving change now...
 
FLIR Government Systems told me that the T-70 is available for sale now, orders placed today will be shipped out early in Septermber. I asked them if WiseGuy wanted to go hog hunting with me when I get mine?
 
FLIR Government Systems told me that the T-70 is available for sale now, orders placed today will be shipped out early in September. I asked them if WiseGuy wanted to go hog hunting with me when I get mine?

We've had orders in since a few months back. We're expecting them (we hope before that). :)

Vic
 
A little more info: As we understand directly from the PM at FLIR the "2-5-10" warranty is not going to apply to the T-70. Some of our customers were leaning toward to the FLIR system over the PAS-13G from L3 and this is a little bit of a game changer for them. Deliveries are expected currently in end of August.
 
That is what I have been hearing as well, however it does not chance my mind on the T-70 instrument.
 
Explain the 2-5-10 warranty...

It does not apply to Government Systems Military Thermal Weapon sights, it applies to either Maritime, Personal Handheld Scanners, or Industrial Thermal cameras:


2 Years parts and labor coverage on the camera!
5 Years coverage on the battery!
10 Years coverage on the detector

http://www.flir.com/uploadedFiles/C...sonal-Vision-System-3-10-Limited-Warranty.pdf

2-5-10 Warranty from FLIR Systems, Inc.

You must register your FLIR product S/N here first, I have my PS-32 and LS-64 registered:

FLIR Customer Support Center

Simply outstanding customer service from a first class company.
 
When is the L3 pas 13g going to hit the shelves?

Apparently it is going to be awhile, they are still working on getting it certified for 7.62mm as it currently is not certified for anything over 5.56mm, also they are making a specific civilian version that is somewhat different than the Mil-Spec model they had at the 2013 Shot Show that I tried out. I think they also have to work on distributorship/marketing contracts as they are not really set up on that yet either. It looks like a nice unit to me, although I only got to try it out inside the convention center, the pricing looks good too, don't know about warranty.