Active Shooter in El Paso???

[M8541Reaper]

c'mon. some snipers here were encouraging this (action) just last week, suggesting californians are cucks and serfs because we don't revolt violently.

lol you called them snipers.

That aside, you brought up a good point that I’m sure the algorithms, that monitor these forums, picked up on. Hopefully those who call for this kind of shit get rounded up. Maybe then they’ll change their other opinion about how LE should just execute people.

While they may just be saying it to vent and would never go through with it, what it does do is motivate those who normally wouldn’t but start to change their mind based on the appearance that there are others who share their point of view. Most are too fucking ignorant to see the ripple effects of their actions.

 

[vh20]

Killers in El Paso and Dayton were both wearing ear pro... That's something I don't remember ever seeing before (because it really makes ZERO sense to do), but yet two in a row have done it in less than 24 hrs. My first thought was that it isn't for protection, but that they were possibly receiving comms from someone. Then a report said the EP shooter was making moves like he was dancing at times, leading my wife to speculate he was listening to motivational music ("Bodies" came to mind). Or maybe there's nothing to it at all and they just didn't like the noise, but it still strikes me as very odd, and the fact that they were both muffs (when plugs are cheaper and way less awkward) just screams to me maybe there is something "up with that."

 

[vh20]

Pressure of survival?

More the opposite. Too much free time with no needs that have to be worked for

Yep. Exactly my response as well.

 

[ArmyJerry]

Californians are chucks and serfs, killing innocent people in ohio and Texas is not in any way fashion or form a revolt, its just murder. Shut up serf and go back to serfing or slaving, or whatever else you all do out there., leave the adult freemen to discussions here.

c'mon. some snipers here were encouraging this (action) just last week, suggesting californians are cucks and serfs because we don't revolt violently.

 

[theLBC]

Californians are chucks and serfs, killing innocent people in ohio and Texas is not in any way fashion or form a revolt, its just murder. Shut up serf and go back to serfing or slaving, or whatever else you all do out there., leave the adult freemen to discussions here.

for every person like me that openly rejects your calls for violence, there are dozens or hundreds or thousands that only read them.
how many will act out?

 

[ArmyJerry]

where is there a call for violence there Serf???

 

[hic28]

Don’t know if this has been posted yet.

 

[ArmyJerry]

hmmmm, seems as if the country is being played.

again

 

[Snuby642]

Antifa, who would have guessed.

Changed by who?

Makes you wonder about author of the manafesto as well.

Did garlic fest shooter have ear pro?

All 3 recent shootings fit a profile of antifa types imho.

 

[ArmyJerry]

Hmmm why would the Lt Gov feel a need to warn antifa after they did their dirty work???? Pehaps there are other threats?

After El Paso Mass Shooting, ANTIFA Warned To STAY OUT OF TEXAS by Lt. Gov Dan Patrick

Earlier today, we reported the mass shooting that took place in an El Paso, TX Walmart. The most recent report I've seen says 20 people were killed, and police reports also say that 26 others

www.davidharrisjr.com

 

[Gunfighter14e2]

hmmmm, seems as if the country is being played.

again

Has been for a long time, an it will get what it deserves an rightfully so. The issue is what it will make those who had open eyes an voiced truth for oh so many years do, once it gets to the next level. Seems I remember it only took just less than 3% with balls to found this country, wonder what the % will be on, re founding it?
People need to be careful of that they wish, as when True Americans remove self imposed rules, the game gets stepped up a notch or three,...

 

[M8541Reaper]

Fuckin people here don’t get that words have meaning and can be used as fuel by weaker-minded people to validate their views and beliefs. So the cycle will continue to repeat itself.

...and on that note, I’m out.

 

[Gunfighter14e2]

 

[HMRamateur]

Funny... I just posted about this when the shooting happened at the garlic festival. A young white male with a "manifesto". News stories contradicting each other. Just another reason to push for more gun control with the usual suspects to blame

 

[ArmyJerry]

Did you and LBC fake this concern when Vegas happened? Did you feign concern when Repubs were gunned down SS style on a baseball field? Or are you two just now all of a sudden concerned to join the narrative of your fellow travelers, maybe you are the weak minded you reference.

Til this point I have only been half joking with the cuck label now I dont know,,,, maybe you two are.

Fuckin people here don’t get that words have meaning and can be used as fuel by weaker-minded people to validate their views and beliefs. So the cycle will continue to repeat itself.

...and on that note, I’m out.

 

[Snuby642]

So Texas as s state, can we declare antifa as a terrorist organisation or terrorist gang and just f them up on site?

Or do we have to sit and wait on feds?
Gov and potus have been talking.

 

[SilentStalkr]

How do we know none of this is Photoshopped?

 

[Rthur]

Am I the only one that thinks this looks much like the New Zealand "packaging".

R

 

[ArmyJerry]

We dont need to wait for the feds, but I am not willing to give up rights for "protection" of the state. Every one of these antifas have beat people destroyed property in riots, while the police stood by, start arresting them for the actual crimes they are committing and see how many want to do these acts of evil going forward.

Until now the government has not done one thing to administer justice to these people and have arrested people that defended themselves against antifa. Why would you want to give the government more power when they cant handle and abuse the power they now have?

 

[Greg Langelius *]

I would not normally do so and would also expect that it will soon disappear; but I did skim the "manifesto".

All I will say is that it was not the expected "shit for brains" verbal diarrhea I was expecting.

Greg

 

[ArmyJerry]

So in your opinion do you think its his own work? I refuese to give them the press or the click , just asking your old timey opinion?

 

[HMRamateur]

Am I the only one that thinks this looks much like the New Zealand "packaging".

R

That's exactly what it looks like to me. These are martyrs for a cause, with the media fabricating the stories to match.

 

[_Windrider_]

So in your opinion do you think its his own work? I refuese to give them the press or the click , just asking your old timey opinion?

No way. It’s a script.

 

[theLBC]

Did you and LBC fake this concern when Vegas happened? Did you feign concern when Repubs were gunned down SS style on a baseball field? Or are you two just now all of a sudden concerned to join the narrative of your fellow travelers, maybe you are the weak minded you reference.

Til this point I have only been half joking with the cuck label now I dont know,,,, maybe you two are.

i assume every patriot has similar thoughts when our freedoms and those that protect them are attacked.

i am simply repeating my argument that publicly voicing some kinds of opinions can be more hurtful than helpful in our struggle to keep our 2A rights, especially these days when everything can be culled and used by liberal outlets to feed their narratives.

So a lot of blabbering by the pansy "patriots" of Cali, tell us some concrete steps you fuckers have taken to stem the tidal wave of communism,,, m,y own experience with you fucks is you are all on the payroll one way or another from the state out there.

only steps i seen so far was dorner.

 

[ArmyJerry]

I hear ya LBC and 8541 309iinne, I just dont think you should hold back expressing your thoughts on this shit because someone unhinged might take it the wrong way, its part of our fundamental problem, truth telling has been non pc for too long and evil has been allowed to grow because good men said and did nothing.

YOu cant curry favor with the people that literally hate you , hate your race and hate everything you stand for including our country and our freedom. Trump realizes this and that why he trolls them so hard, fuck them all .

When you fear speaking the truth you are a slave in your own mind and of your own making.

 

[Expert684]

Go Google ANTIFA firearms training. Several stories pop up, a few from last month!!!
These fuckers are taking it to the next level!
If it looks, smells and you stepped in it, its a turd no matter how you paint it!

 

[theLBC]

I hear ya LBC and 8541 309iinne, I just dont think you should hold back expressing your thoughts on this shit because someone unhinged might take it the wrong way, its part of our fundamental problem, truth telling has been non pc for too long and evil has been allowed to grow because good men said and did nothing.

YOu cant curry favor with the people that literally hate you , hate your race and hate everything you stand for including our country and our freedom. Trump realizes this and that why he trolls them so hard, fuck them all .

When you fear speaking the truth you are a slave in your own mind and of your own making.

great points, jerry.

however, when i choose to get real (and i do), i do it on non-firearm related platforms, so it can't be used to connect my personal feelings with the hobbies or lifestyles i love and wish to protect.

 

[Snuby642]

I'm all for bounty on thier heads.
Cash preferred.

 

[_Windrider_]

I'm all for bounty on thier heads.
Cash preferred.

Shit. I’ll do it for free.

 

[Alphatreedog]

So here's my .02.
The Extremist Muslims have great success with indoctrinating twenty year old and having them indiscriminately kill . We have seen college kids pull off fake hate crimes . We have a segment of society who openly attack o]osition and can't understand why they were arrested . This exact shit happened in Nazi Germany just .before the gun seizures . We have seen the riots , attacks and now idiscriminate killing . I don't know about you but this looks like a shooting war to me .
There is an election to be stolen in 1yr. and three months . The left is going cull court press for gun confiscation . I would not be surprised to see more and soon .
The only way to flip this script is if some people were to fraudulently claim this was Antifa amd celebrate it not unlike the way the left lies . Thing is we play by the rules and don't stoop to this shit .

 

[ArmyJerry]

well I reserve that for the hide where there is a more of an adult crowd. MY MC forums are full of unhinged people and I would never even talk about exceeding the speed limit there for fear someone might run from the cops.

great points, jerry.

however, when i choose to get real (and i do), i do it on non-firearm related platforms, so it can't be used to connect my personal feelings with the hobbies or lifestyles i love and wish to protect.

 

[theLBC]

well I reserve that for the hide where there is a more of an adult crowd. MY MC forums are full of unhinged people and I would never even talk about exceeding the speed limit there for fear someone might run from the cops.

as you wish.

if i hadn't already seen quotations used from other forums to paint gun owners as violent bigots and racists, i wouldn't be concerned.

 

[ArmyJerry]

I dont see a lot of violent racists or bigots on this forum.

A violent racist lefty shows up every now and then, but not often.

 

[P-Squared]

But wait...
https://www.nextgov.com/emerging-te...dia-criminals-and-terrorists-they-act/158843/
Now the FBI wants to track 'social media' real time. I'm sure it's 'for the children'

 

[uffduh]

Wonder what tox-screens of the dead shooters show.

 

[deersniper]

^ lol. They only want that to track tax slaves that don't want to go with the program anymore and threaten thr olugharchy and their organized crime enterprise.

Muslim and left wing terrorists further the deep state/olugharchy goals so they will be left alone

 

[Greg Langelius *]

So in your opinion do you think its his own work? I refuese to give them the press or the click , just asking your old timey opinion?

I have reread it. It's at least literate, and appears to have been deeply thought out by someone.

Assumptions are made that are both fallacious and appealing to those who would jump first to conclusions without reasoning them out beforehand. I could never support the manifesto in whole or in part. It points out with needle sharp accuracy how the MSM would (has) characterized him as White Supremacist, and blamed this on Trump's rhetoric. Whether he is, I am unwilling to waste my time attempting to refute or justify. As for Trump's rhetoric; Trump's rhetoric is bang-on, and it's driving the MSM to ever increasing flights of insanity.

In short, he's essentially against immigration of any flavor, period. He blames Hispanics for the problems he cites/invents. His assessments and recommendations are simplistic and impractical at least, totalitarian at worst, and not the thinking of what I would characterize as a sane and cogent individual. Buried sparsely within it, the manifesto burps up tactical advice that I could only describe as suicidal; and I'm clearly no tactician myself. He promises a "death by cop" ending, yet whomever it was that was taken into custody for this obscenity, that outcome has yet to occur.

I remain unconvinced that the manifesto is the work of the perp, or that the perp is actually in custody.

As for the perp, whomever; fuck him to Hell forever.

Most of my neighbors and friends here in SE AZ are Hispanics, and the ones I see every day are nowhere near being any kind of a problem.

I think that Illegal Immigration is wrong, that the Left knows that, yet deliberately encourages and employs it as a means to assume Authoritarian rule (not governance) over all Americans, whatever their origin.

I don't have a solution to illegal immigration; but I believe there is one, and that the Left is core-committed to disrupting any chance of finding it. They are the problem. Like the Nazis, the first country they invade is their own.

Greg

 

[Blue Sky Country]

for every person like me that openly rejects your calls for violence, there are dozens or hundreds or thousands that only read them.
how many will act out?

They are not "calls for violence". There have been no calls for violence, except from the ANTIFA creeps. What we are doing here is called talking shit. Just like any good ol' banter among guys gathered around bar tables since the days of posses and horse thieves being hung. It reflects the mood and atmosphere of a given group of people that is being pushed and harassed and doing their damndest to remain civilized. If the powers that be listens to the stuff that is being spoken, they will realize that people like us are already aware of their intentions and on to their game. Nobody is actually carrying out acts of anger or vengeance against "precision targets" of this harassment, yet, and if the other side is smart and realize that their actions may in fact lead people to object quite enthusiastically, perhaps conflict might be avoided. That is the purpose of shit talking. It is to invoke a certain part of the other side's lizard brain, the part of the brain that focuses on survival and self preservation, and basically communicate to them: "Hey buddy, you might want t' lay off a bit there, eh?"...

 

[ArmyJerry]

Thanks GL, I dont know either.

 

[Gunfighter14e2]

So I'm guessing cigar staining blue dress guy an his husband have conger-ed up a new twist on deflecting from them, while advancing their agenda at the same time? Got to give credit where do,...

 

[Longshot231]

I could not find anything on the El Paso shooter but see the attachment for the Dayton shooter. He was a Democrat.

 

[theLBC]

 

[_Windrider_]

I could not find anything on the El Paso shooter but see the attachment for the Dayton shooter. He was a Democrat.

The guy killed his sister in the shooting. I’d bet good money she was the target all along. The poor little incel probably saw one to many step sister videos on porn hub and tried to fuck his real sister and when she said no he lost it.

 

[Gunfighter14e2]

He killed his sister, then went after black people, ...makes you wonder who she was dating or banging,....

 

[Greg Langelius *]

If violence was a viable answer, I wouldn't be here typing in what I hope is a reasonable manner.

Nor would I be perpetrating it.

I would be guarding against it, and preparing reasonable means of safeguarding my family and friends from any outbreaks in our immediate vicinity. When...; if and only.

Even understanding that my faith may be misplaced, I am unwilling to go any further; and I place my faith in regional LE and Military forces to resolve that which would be beyond my immediate locale and solely defensive capability.

I've already made my efforts at trying to get people here "to lay off a bit", and all it brought me was vilification and discontent in measure which bordered upon the Biblical. So fuck that, and fuck the usual suspects; again. Personally, I think they do this site a disservice; but that's outside my wheelhouse now, and others will, or will not, do anything about that. If the witch hunt impinges on this site, it will be those who are compelled to be "going on a bit" who will have attracted that brand of attention. Again, I think they're wrong.

So be it. It shall be upon their heads, and not mine.

My firearms are not toys, and their purposes are only partly for recreation. They are for learning (of physics; the interactions for matter and energy in practical terms), and for being prepared, like the Scouts, for interaction with the Second Amendment and the purposes for which the Founders included it, second only to free speech, as a necessity of the individual to ensuring the continuance of personal freedoms within the Republic.

If that becomes illegal, such is a deliberate step by those enactors to destroy the rule of law by crafting Anti- (and not Un-) Constitutional legislation. This is no tiny distinction, and upon it lies the future of a nation; OUR Nation.

There exists means enough in our government's structure to defend the Constitution, the main question being whether those means are capable of bending to corruption. I pray not, and that's where my commitments rest for the moment.

I support law, freedom, and the Constitution; and not necessarily in that order.

I can be silent, but I choose not to. I refer to Lincoln and my signature line.

Greg

 

[ArmyJerry]

Its an answer, just the last answer to be tried, at least from the good guy side, the bad guy side is trying it right now. Knowing the good guys from bad is not so easy.

 

[Greg Langelius *]

It's but a single step from never allowing a convenient disaster to pass unexploited to creating one in the first place.

We all know that's a fact that nobody's willing to put on the air.

You can always tell who's the bad guy. He's the one who's A) shooting at you, or B) trying nullify you by disarming you.

Greg

 

[Alphatreedog]

He killed his sister, then went after black people, ...makes you wonder who she was dating or banging,....

That's a real shame . There's a good market for that kind of porn . To soon ?

 

[Srikaleak]

Recent push to get the Senate to pass HR8, which has already passed the house. Here's the details and the costs

All Info - H.R.8 - 116th Congress (2019-2020): Bipartisan Background Checks Act of 2019

All Info for H.R.8 - 116th Congress (2019-2020): Bipartisan Background Checks Act of 2019

www.congress.gov

H.R. 8, Bipartisan Background Checks Act of 2019

As passed by the House of Representatives on February 27, 2019

www.cbo.gov

HR8 is the universal background check bill. No limitations/restrictions on firearms/magazines/ammo unless I missed a rider.
I don't think this bill would have prevented anything because, as far as I know, the three kids didn't have records.

 

[deersniper]

Yes. Background checks are to get registration. To get confiscation