Holy smokes, DPMS G2 rifles

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    it is buried wayyyyyyyyyyy deep in the first page of the semi-auto section of SH ;)

    http://www.snipershide.com/shooting...00yard-semi-auto-6group-30round-shootout.html

    it takes only a couple minutes to take a picture of the target and your rifle and post your results & you can post them both in the shootout thread and here with a simple paste of the info in two seconds.

    Where is this 100 yard shootout thread??.... (for the love of god!)


    I'm getting a DPMS Hunter this week and will be posting MANY groups with different loads (because I have a range in my backyard)
    I will post them on this thread instead of the shootout thread because that is what this thread if for I thought.... a review of THIS rifle and not a contest.
     

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    I really want one of these in an SBR .308, but the AP4 isn't fat enough in the barrel to cut down, and the Recon has middy gas which would probably suck on a 12.5" gun
     

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    Got my hunter this weekend and proceeded straight to breaking in the barrel as per DPMS instructions, clean between the first 25 shots and then every 5 shots for the next 100 rounds. I tried some 150 Rem CoreLoks (I have about 3000) and some surplus 4895. It did OK at a little over 1 moa. Then I tried some 175 smk's with 4895 and 4064. I was only able to get 2520 fps before the pressure spike... not what I was hoping for but should improve after break in.

    One thing I did notice.... the 175 smk's would creep out of the case increasing the OAL after chambering. I'm running .006 neck tension on LC 91 once fired brass. I'm thinking that the lighter BCG has more closing velocity and is acting like an inertia bullet puller. I'm not that familiar with the AR 308 platforms, this is my first... but I haven't read anything about this happening with the older / heavier BCG's.

    Another thing I noticed was that the casings would eject to the extreme rear. If a leftie shot this rifle he would probably be eating a casing. My shooting bench is beside my loading bench so I put a box up beside the rifle to catch the brass to keep it off my loading bench. Notice how close the box is. The brass would eject and miss the box completely going over my right shoulder and into my back room.
     

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    Not sure if you have seen this.

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    Did it lock back after the last round?
     

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    Just got my G2 Bull, weighed in at 10 lbs even, just as advertised. Now sits at 14lbs. Charging the weapon takes some effort and an oversized latch is definitely needed. Trigger isn't bad for a factory offering, but I definitely would like something lighter. The supplied magazine was sloppily put together, with floorplate only slid on half way. The rest of the rifle is much better built, and much nicer than what I have seen of past DPMS. Mine has hardly noticeable upper and lower wiggle. Size wise it feels like it splits the difference between and AR15 and AR10. Its about 2 pounds lighter than my previous 20" barreled AR10NM with the same configuration.

    Heading out to the range in the next few days weather permitting, I'll post shooting impressions afterwards.

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    now that's my kind of rifle! that's one sick stick! kick ass rifle


    Just got my G2 Bull, weighed in at 10 lbs even, just as advertised. Now sits at 14lbs. Charging the weapon takes some effort and an oversized latch is definitely needed. Trigger isn't bad for a factory offering, but I definitely would like something lighter. The supplied magazine was sloppily put together, with floorplate only slid on half way. The rest of the rifle is much better built, and much nicer than what I have seen of past DPMS. Mine has hardly noticeable upper and lower wiggle. Size wise it feels like it splits the difference between and AR15 and AR10. Its about 2 pounds lighter than my previous 20" barreled AR10NM with the same configuration.

    Heading out to the range in the next few days weather permitting, I'll post shooting impressions afterwards.

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    So half pound heavier than a scar 17.

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    The Recon has a very beefy barrel, whereas the SCAR 17 has a pencil barrel. If you put a SCAR 17 profile barrel in a GII, you're looking at an extremely lightweight gun. My first impression is that it's a SCAR 17 killer, potentially even for military applications, since this is what we've been looking for. The GII AP4 weighs in at 7.25lbs, for example.

    I think we're really pushing the lightweight threshold of what a self-loading .308 should be, as anything under 7lbs is going to be a beast on the shoulder. I've taken a lightweight .308 rifle, suppressed even, through 3-day Sniper Instructor Course, and I had a headache by lunchtime on Day 1....not fun at all.
     

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    The Recon has a very beefy barrel, whereas the SCAR 17 has a pencil barrel. If you put a SCAR 17 profile barrel in a GII, you're looking at an extremely lightweight gun. My first impression is that it's a SCAR 17 killer, potentially even for military applications, since this is what we've been looking for. The GII AP4 weighs in at 7.25lbs, for example.

    I think we're really pushing the lightweight threshold of what a self-loading .308 should be, as anything under 7lbs is going to be a beast on the shoulder. I've taken a lightweight .308 rifle, suppressed even, through 3-day Sniper Instructor Course, and I had a headache by lunchtime on Day 1....not fun at all.

    This thing is rather impressive. From dpms nonetheless.. They took a step back and redid the 308 platform. This is something ground breaking. At half the price of a SCAR 17 at that. I'm curious to see where this goes in the future.

    Only cons about it is that there are alot proprietary parts.

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    Not sure if you have seen this.

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    Did it lock back after the last round?


    It does lock back after the last round. I loaded 25 rounds one at a time through the magazine during the break in and it locked back each time.

    The funny thing is that the stiffer the load the further toward 6:00 it ejected which is contrary to the chart.

    The only problem was with the Magpul gen 3 magazine. It would lock the bolt back but the mag follower wasn't lifting the catch up far enough to fully engage the bolt. I heard somewhere that they are updating the followers.
     

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    My g2 recon ejects around 4:30 with both 178 amax/42.6 varget and 110 vmax/45.9 n135.

    Mine has officially replaced my 18" ss lmt mws. Sold it yesterday.
    Beautiful rifle, but it's excessive weight did not balance out with the very small accuracy advantage it held over the g2 recon.
    Now if I can just get a damn Midwest keymod forearm for the g2 up here to canada, this will be my favourite rifle, ever.
    Makes me giggle like a schoolgirl shooting three gun steel with the 110 grain vmax and a 1-4 optic. And still being able to pop the 2.5-10 on there with the 178's and shoot a very consistent .8 moa.
     

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    Took the G2 bull out today, but didn't have much time so I only put 50 rounds through to zero and start to break it in. The range here was 100meters. I used 10 rounds of steel cased brown bear to find the paper and getting a basic zero. No issues feeding crappy ammo in it. A 5 round group with it measured at 2.5 inches.

    I then switched over to federal GMM 175gr, and got much better results. See attached image. Not as good as I wanted, but I was in a rush and had a crosswind blowing from 12-22mph. Avg was 1.19 MOA. Broken in, on a calmer day with more time to shoot, I can see this easily being a sub MOA shooter.

    All brass ejected at 5'oclock and all primers were cratered. Charging was still difficult but showed signs of loosening up. Both Magpul and the DPMS supplied magazine worked without issue. Recoil was milder than expected, and I do not feel the need to put a brake on to make the shooting more pleasant. The LUTH AR stock work magnificently and is hands down a better choice when compared to the PRS in my opinion having used both. The trigger felt better today and I may give it a few more range days before deciding what to do with it. Still needs an oversized changing handle latch, and a new pistol grip for my larger hands. Debating on swapping out for the MI hand guard, since as the factory unit works for its intended purpose. Unless I can realize some decent weight loss from swapping, this one may stay on.

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    Good stuff man, can't wait to take mine off layaway and mount up my 3.5-21 and see what kind of groups I can get.
     

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    I ordered my G2 Recon yesterday. Was told about 17 day eta. I am planning on running it as a carbine platform for now with a Aimpoint Micro. Then eventually putting on a 2.5-10. I sold my DMR 556 build that I had spent a year building to get this gun. Both are 16" platforms and I couldn't pass on the benefits of the 308 ballistics over the 556. It is nice to see DPMS taking the lead on improving the AR10 platform.
     

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    nude .....damn no porn pics allowed old low light will get pissed off ......damn skinny and cold thing
     

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    skip the aimpoint and just get the scope.... I would personally get a 3-15


    I ordered my G2 Recon yesterday. Was told about 17 day eta. I am planning on running it as a carbine platform for now with a Aimpoint Micro. Then eventually putting on a 2.5-10. I sold my DMR 556 build that I had spent a year building to get this gun. Both are 16" platforms and I couldn't pass on the benefits of the 308 ballistics over the 556. It is nice to see DPMS taking the lead on improving the AR10 platform.
     

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    I would consider skipping the Aimpoint if I didn't already have it sitting in the safe as it came off the gun I sold to buy my recon. The glass I am looking at is the PST 2.5x10-32 in mil/mil. It fits in my price range and has the options I am looking for. I have a bolt gun for long range. I plan on using this from cqb out to 600-700 yards. I want to keep it more of the DMR vs sniper set up.
     

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    The agony of carbine vs. DMR set up. All scopes are quite heavy compared to an Aimpoint Micro...but does the ability to actually see your target beyond 100 yards outweigh the weight penalty? I have been debating this a lot myself.

    I'm also debating LMT versus a G2 versus a SCAR 17...only thing holding me back on the DPMS is that it's a DPMS and I'm more looking for a "top of the line" gun to be done with it.
     

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    I like a 1-4 the most on the g2 recon.
    You don't lose the low weight and carbine advantages with a 1x variable. And still have glass for target ID.

    On the lmt, the weight doesn't matter, as it's already borderline a crew served weapon, lol. It is higher quality for sure, but I found it unpractical due to the weight and bulk. I just couldn't see myself taking it out for a stroll vs. a 16" 223 ar.
    The lmt is a better built rifle, the g2 is a more usefully designed rifle.
    Maybe split the difference and go with a kac ecc.
     

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    I bought a Hunter and was having ejection problems with the pattern being 5:30 to 6:00. If a leftie had shot the gun it would have brained them. I contacted DPMS and the guy that answered my online query simply said he was a leftie and when he shot the G2 the ejected brass came "close" but never hit him...... and I'm happy for him but that's not much of an answer from a factory rep.

    Studying the problem I found that if the ejector spring is weak it will cause that type of ejection pattern but the G2 has TWO ejectors. Long story short, I simply lubed the ejectors with some Rem-oil and problem solved. It ejects at 3:00 now.
     

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    I own a DPMS G2 Recon and POF P308 and a Armalite AR10 SASS. I also had the chance to play with a FN SCAR H 17s this past weekend. So out of all these brands the POF is a Better Quality Gun closest to worth the coin in terms of Build Quality. The SCAR 17 comes in Very Close Second place. The only thing I don't really like about the SCAR is the plastic stock which feels a bit cheap and is design although very sexy and pleasing to the eyes is kind of bulky in my hands. I also prefer longer hand rails which SCAR does not come with (But can be upgraded at a additional hefty price).

    Out of all four guns the Armalite is by far the Heaviest at 15lbs but mine is a Shooter so I won't complain. In terms of Bare Rifles the SCAR is 8 lbs vers 8.5 lbs for the Gen2 Recon. But the Recon does have a Much Heavier Profile Stainless Steel Barrel which in my opoinion is better for the money than the SCAR. As far as accuracy goes between the SCAR and Gen2 Recon I believe the Gen2 had the edge for me. My POF is on Par with the Armalite which is pretty dam good for a Piston AR.

    The POF P308 is also about the same weight as the Gen2 Recon which really surprised me.

    So where I am going with this? Well I believe that SCAR is and always will be a Timeless Design and Tried and True Battle Rifle in the modern battlefield. If you need a Battle Rifle that you can bet your life on and survive any SHTF situations and being able to carry it for a long period of time then the SCAR is definitely the right pick for just about anything you'll need it for. However for every day shooters who only use these rifles at the range maybe couple of times a month sitting on a bench shooting paper I believe the SCAR is a Over Kill and Over Priced Choice. Everything related to the SCAR are expensive and different (I.E. the 17s magazines).

    At just about 1/2 the price of a SCAR the Gen 2 Recon is a Much Better Choice and Purchase to offer 90% of what the SCAR is capable of maybe even more. Now if one buying the SCAR for all the Coolness Reasons then I have nothing to say or against it. But on paper and financially speaking the Gen 2 just makes a lot more sense. Not to mention the Factory 2 Stage Trigger on the DPMS Gen2 is WAAAY BETTER Than the Factory SCAR 17s Trigger. I Cannot Understand Why FNH did not install a decent factory trigger in the SCAR 17 from the start especially with the Price Being Over $3K!!!

    I have now going on 500 rounds through my Gen 2 Recon without a single Failure of any Sort and without any Cleaning. My POF is the same way but again, cost 2x as much and the Gen 2.

    In terms of Weight, the KAC ECC is 9 lbs I believe so it'll be even heavier than the Gen 2 or my POF for that matter. I still have my Armalite because it was my first AR10 and I just like it old school. But If I had to pick only one of my .308 for all around purpose it'll definitely be the GEN2 Recon.

    FWIW.

    HOG.

    The agony of carbine vs. DMR set up. All scopes are quite heavy compared to an Aimpoint Micro...but does the ability to actually see your target beyond 100 yards outweigh the weight penalty? I have been debating this a lot myself.

    I'm also debating LMT versus a G2 versus a SCAR 17...only thing holding me back on the DPMS is that it's a DPMS and I'm more looking for a "top of the line" gun to be done with it.
     
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    Thanks for your thoughts. Having that equipment definitely gives you an edge on reporting. It's nice hearing this information from someone that has the trigger time.
     

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    Thanks for the info!

    Now I'm just waiting for cobra to give birth over this thread.



    I own a DPMS G2 Recon and POF P308 and a Armalite AR10 SASS. I also had the chance to play with a FN SCAR H 17s this past weekend. So out of all these brands the POF is a Better Quality Gun closest to worth the coin in terms of Build Quality. The SCAR 17 comes in Very Close Second place. The only thing I don't really like about the SCAR is the plastic stock which feels a bit cheap and is design although very sexy and pleasing to the eyes is kind of bulky in my hands. I also prefer longer hand rails which SCAR does not come with (But can be upgraded at a additional hefty price).

    Out of all four guns the Armalite is by far the Heaviest at 15lbs but mine is a Shooter so I won't complain. In terms of Bare Rifles the SCAR is 8 lbs vers 8.5 lbs for the Gen2 Recon. But the Recon does have a Much Heavier Profile Stainless Steel Barrel which in my opoinion is better for the money than the SCAR. As far as accuracy goes between the SCAR and Gen2 Recon I believe the Gen2 had the edge for me. My POF is on Par with the Armalite which is pretty dam good for a Piston AR.

    The POF P308 is also about the same weight as the Gen2 Recon which really surprised me.

    So where I am going with this? Well I believe that SCAR is and always will be a Timeless Design and Tried and True Battle Rifle in the modern battlefield. If you need a Battle Rifle that you can bet your life on and survive any SHTF situations and being able to carry it for a long period of time then the SCAR is definitely the right pick for just about anything you'll need it for. However for every day shooters who only use these rifles at the range maybe couple of times a month sitting on a bench shooting paper I believe the SCAR is a Over Kill and Over Priced Choice. Everything related to the SCAR are expensive and different (I.E. the 17s magazines).

    At just about 1/2 the price of a SCAR the Gen 2 Recon is a Much Better Choice and Purchase to offer 90% of what the SCAR is capable of maybe even more. Now if one buying the SCAR for all the Coolness Reasons then I have nothing to say or against it. But on paper and financially speaking the Gen 2 just makes a lot more sense.

    I have now going on 500 rounds through my Gen 2 Recon without a single Failure of any Sort and without any Cleaning. My POF is the same way but again, cost 2x as much and the Gen 2.

    In terms of Weight, the KAC ECC is 9 lbs I believe so it'll be even heavier than the Gen 2 or my POF for that matter. I still have my Armalite because it was my first AR10 and I just like it old school. But If I had to pick only one of my .308 for all around purpose it'll definitely be the GEN2 Recon.

    FWIW.

    HOG.
     

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    The only thing that bothers me with these rifles is the fact that the barrel extension is different than everything else. So until I get my hands on a couple extensions, it kinda ruins my 358 16" Sasquatch thumper, and all the other cool things you can chamber an AR10 in. I think the normal LR308/AR10/ETC... DPMS based platform is here to stay, I don't think other manufactures are going to produce barrels and etc for the new G2 stuff.
     

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    The only thing that bothers me with these rifles is the fact that the barrel extension is different than everything else. So until I get my hands on a couple extensions, it kinda ruins my 358 16" Sasquatch thumper, and all the other cool things you can chamber an AR10 in. I think the normal LR308/AR10/ETC... DPMS based platform is here to stay, I don't think other manufactures are going to produce barrels and etc for the new G2 stuff.

    I actually think a lot of manufacturers went home from SHOT asking themselves what they can possibly do to answer the GII, and I am no DPMS cheerleader by any stretch of the imagination. DPMS really is a recognized brand name, but the company ceased to exist after Randy Luth sold it to Freedom Group.

    The GII does a lot to break free from the low-end reputation of the DPMS brand, because the GII seems to have been designed and engineered by a whole new team of thinkers, and I really feel that they have made the best improvement to the Stoner gas system since the addition of the carrier key in the late 1950's. (The original AR10 did not have a carrier key, just a hole in the front of the bolt carrier that the gas tube inserted into, creating the same expansion chamber on the rear of the bolt flange for the gas rings.)

    The carrier key has always been kind of an after-thought, and both the Dutch and Jim Sullivan claim credit for the carrier key design, which first appeared on the AR10. The Dutch also did a lot of the work on relocating the charge handle from the inverted "trigger" style, to a folding side paratrooper version that was on the rear of the charge handle shaft, later evolving into the AR15 prototype triangular charge handles, as the first few AR15 prototypes had "trigger" chargers.

    Anyway, Remington/Freedom Group incorporated some very progressive and well thought out implements in the GII, and I can't find fault with the unique features so far. I think the biggest question mark is the elastomer extractor buffer/spring, departing from traditional coil springs. The .080" firing pin is most likely meant to activate military primers, while compromising on softer civilian primers and the resultant primer flow/cratering.

    I genuinely suspect that Freedom Group would love to get some military sales of this rifle to compete with the larger frame DM and SASS systems that are already in inventory, and they addressed the main complaint about legacy systems so far: size/weight.
     

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    Thanks for the info!

    Now I'm just waiting for cobra to give birth over this thread.

    Lol.

    It would be interesting if Freedom Group could land some military business for these weapons. Then they might have more credibility as "battle rifles" or SHTF weapons. The weight savings is hard to ignore.
     

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    I noticed bullet movement when the round was loaded from the magazine of my G-2 Hunter. The BCG being lighter is also faster and creates enough inertia to move the bullet and change the COAL. I loaded some 150 gr bullets with .010" bullet tension and they still moved. Heavier bullets move even more. Black Hills Gold 168 Amax factory ammunition bullets moved about .002 each time the round was chambered.

    The only way I have found to keep them seated is to use a bullet with a cannelure and a light crimp.
     
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    How are these G2 rifles with various PMAGs like the gen 3 ones? I am looking seriously at the 20" hunter model but don't want to buy it if the thing doesn't like 10rd pmags (my best option for mags here in CA).

    I noticed bullet movement when the round was loaded from the magazine of my G-2 Hunter. The BCG being lighter is also faster and creates enough inertia to move the bullet and change the COAL. I loaded some 150 gr bullets with .010" bullet tension and they still moved. Heavier bullets move even more. Black Hills Gold 168 Amax factory ammunition bullets moved about .002 each time the round was chambered.

    The only way I have found to keep them seated is to use a bullet with a cannelure and a light crimp.

    So you mean 2.820 to 2.822? That is within tolerances IMHO, not going to change anything.

    Now if it is 2.805 to 2.82" upon chambering that would be much different.
     

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    How are these G2 rifles with various PMAGs like the gen 3 ones? I am looking seriously at the 20" hunter model but don't want to buy it if the thing doesn't like 10rd pmags (my best option for mags here in CA).



    So you mean 2.820 to 2.822? That is within tolerances IMHO, not going to change anything.

    Now if it is 2.805 to 2.82" upon chambering that would be much different.

    The Gen 3 Pmags are not engaging the bolt stop fully. The bolt stop only moves about halfway to the fully locked position. I contacted MagPul and they said there have been reports of this and they are looking into it.


    The .002 bullet movement was on Black Hill Gold 168 gr Amax. I know it's within tolerances but if you reload you could get into trouble fast depending on your neck tension which is less the more you reload the brass. I measured more bullet movement on 175 smk's using once fired LC 91 brass with .003 neck tension. If you reload for this rifle it would be prudent to test how much movement there is before using the rifle in a match or hunting.
     

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    I took my GII SASS to a 5 day course this week at Badlands Tactical. It did great, no malfunctions. One thing I did notice is some of my new pmags would not hold the bolt back a few times but by the end of the class all of them were locking the bolt back. My gun does not like the metal dpms mag that it came with and for some reason it will stove pipe on the third round every other time with that one magazine (pmags run flawlessly). Other than that, never had a issue with the rifle. Total round count is 764 so far.
     

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    Did you follow the DPMS recommended barrel break in procedure?

    No, I did my own. Shoot 1, clean 1 for 5 rounds, then shoot 5 clean 1 for 25 rounds, done. I've cleaned the bore once since I finished this barrel break in and that was only because the I was having feeding problems with the dpms metal magazine.
     

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    So my Recon is arriving Friday and I have been looking for a longer HG for it. I know that MI makes one that requires swapping the barrel nut. And I know that I can use the Nordic ones, but I would like to keep the quad rail. My questions are...

    Does anyone know who makes the "factory" HG's for DPMS G2? They look a lot like those offered by Yankee Hill. Does anyone know if the Yanhee Hill HG's will work with the barrel nut that comes on the Recon and SASS?
     

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    Which nordic ones work on it? I'm heavily debating getting one of the G2 carbines and then modifying it or the DPMS MK12 308 which is basically what I want, albeit a little bit heavier and with the shitty DPMS handguard.
     

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    I bought my DPMS Gen 2 Recon in Feb for $1400 out the door from Dale's GunShop in Marengo, IL.

    I had feed problems with the Magpul Gen3 mags - DPMS tech told me to send them to Magpul and exchange them for Gen 2 mags. I decided to return them to Brownells and order more 20rd DPMS mags. There is a reviewer on Brownells from Arkansas who also had feed/ejection problems with his a Ruger 762 using Magpul Gen3 mags and Ruger told him to use DPMS mags. My brother has had feed/ejection issues with his SIG 716 using Magpul mags - SIG tech told him to use DPMS mags.

    Other than the Magpul mag snafu, the rifle has been fantastic. Everyone comments that it handles and feels like their AR-15 and they are all very surprised how modest the felt recoil is.

    Yes, the DPMS Gen 2 indeed ejects spent cases very hard. The BCG has a polymer extractor spring and TWO ejector pin/springs. DPMS did MUCH engineering to address feed and extraction concerns which were common with .308 AR's.

    The DPMS Gen 2 has more AR 15 parts interchangeability than any other AR .308 that I'm aware of - it was a major driver for the re-design. I have changed out fire control and all furniture/stocks/ free-float tubes with AR 15 parts.

    The charging handle is a unique length - shorter than the large frame DPMS but slightly longer than AR-15. I went from an Eotech EXPS-2 to a Leupold VX-6 1-6x scope and I wish I could put an aftermarket charging handle on it. I put a Badger tactical latch on it - it helps with the scope, but a nice oversized ambi latch would be so much sweeter.
     

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    You can put most anybody's AR-15 free float tube on a DPMS Gen2. The gas block and tube are very low profile.

    The trigger group, safety, pistol handle, and butt stock ( commercial tube) are all standard AR.

    I put a 13 inch Nordic free float tube on my Recon, because I wanted to use a 3-gun style forward grip. The standard issue quad rail looks to me like YHM.
     
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    Audrey Shooting - YouTube

    Here is a YouTube link to a clip of my dainty, petite, 5'6" Southern sister-in-law shooting my DPMS Gen2 with the Eotech EXPS-2. The guy laughing his ass off in the background is my brother Steve - who owns a SIG 762. When he first picked up my Gen2 he honestly thought it was a .223.
     

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    Added a few more mods. A 15" MI keymod rail, Sierra Precision grip, Badger Latch, and BUIS. I'm awaiting a keymod bipod stud to finish it off, its just resting on the harris now. Then I'm blasting the whole thing in FDE.

    I got the rifle for $1050 and then subtract the $50 DPMS rebate. Things added up though, and where its at now is $1700 not counting the glass. Making it about $100 cheaper than the low market price on a G2 SASS, but then again the barrel isn't threaded and doesn't have a muzzle device.

    The factory free float was a PITA to remove, since I don't have an action block to secure this upper in a vice. I had to come up with a homebrew solution and needed to buy a strap wrench to remove it.

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    ApaheDriver - if you like the standard DPMS two stage trigger, please consider throwing a JP 3.5 # spring kit in it and reporting back your impressions. Cheap $14 experiment. I'm running that spring set with an ALG/ACT trigger set and I am impressed that I've had no problems with Lake City M80 ball. BTW, the receiver is so compact you will have to remove the safety to do anything with the trigger group.

    I'm using an inexpensive trigger adjuster and it works great.

    http://www.ar15triggeradjusters.com/home-purchase.html
     
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    All finished in its final form, another range trip this weekend to rezero, and get the BUIS sighted in.

    I'll have to try some basic trigger enhancements, but It's hard to not go with a Geiselle after using them in the past.

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    I took my GII SASS to a 5 day course this week at Badlands Tactical. It did great, no malfunctions. One thing I did notice is some of my new pmags would not hold the bolt back a few times but by the end of the class all of them were locking the bolt back. My gun does not like the metal dpms mag that it came with and for some reason it will stove pipe on the third round every other time with that one magazine (pmags run flawlessly). Other than that, never had a issue with the rifle. Total round count is 764 so far.

    Was it the Urban Sniper course by chance?
     

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    My recon arrived Friday, then after a good cleaning I got it out to the range last night. Only put 20 rounds of some reloads I got from a friend. I am still waiting on a shipment of ammo. I have it set up with an Aimpoint Micro H1 and for fun I slapped on a Surefire M952V I had laying around.

    Fit and finish are very nice and it really does feel like a standard AR carbine. The quad rail HG is a little short for my liking and it is really fat. With that being said I run extende key mod HG's on almost all my AR15's so i a not used to the size.

    The rifle shot great, no issues at all. Ejects about 10-12 feet away at 3:30-4:00. The dual ejectors did leave two little love marks on the brass and the primers did show some cratering.

    The factory two stage trigger is a little heavier than I would normally like; but after I cleaned it (got rid of the factory grit) it breaks really cleanly and works well.

    Recoil is very manageable and comes straight back into you. I had no issues at all keeping my dot on target during recoil. The AAC break seems to work very well, unfortunately I will be replacing it with one that will except my Gem Tech Quicksand.

    Overall, I am very impressed. I will eventually swap the Micro for a scope and go with a different HG. This is my first AR10 and I am very pleased. The G2 is well worth a look if someone is in the market.

    I will post more as I break it in and continue to put rounds down range.
     
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    I hadn't previously seen these...I'll be interested in some longer-range accuracy reports as well. I'm currently looking for another 308 upper, but I'm just not quite convinced enough to bite on these yet.
     

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    All finished in its final form, another range trip this weekend to rezero, and get the BUIS sighted in.

    I'll have to try some basic trigger enhancements, but It's hard to not go with a Geiselle after using them in the past.

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    Looking good man. What paint or process did you end up using?