Vudoo V-22S Single Shot BR/F-Class Action

Riberac

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I start to adjust my V22S, first observations:
-the extraction of the casings is very bad, they remain in the loading trough after being taken out of the chamber, I am obliged to take them out with my finger which in competition can be penalizing in view of the authorized time.
- with LAPUA ammunition perfect percution
- with ELEY systematic incident of percussion !

the ammunition not struck is not extracted by the extractors !
 

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I start to adjust my V22S, first observations:
-the extraction of the casings is very bad, they remain in the loading trough after being taken out of the chamber, I am obliged to take them out with my finger which in competition can be penalizing in view of the authorized time.
- with LAPUA ammunition perfect percution
- with ELEY systematic incident of percussion !

the ammunition not struck is not extracted by the extractors !
Riberac, to clarify, you are extracting from the chamber with no issues, but the ejection from the loading area is where your Eley spent case is not being thrown out of the loading area?

Anyone else have experience with this and can offer any solutions for Riberac?

Best regards,

RFS99
 

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I start to adjust my V22S, first observations:
-the extraction of the casings is very bad, they remain in the loading trough after being taken out of the chamber, I am obliged to take them out with my finger which in competition can be penalizing in view of the authorized time.
- with LAPUA ammunition perfect percution
- with ELEY systematic incident of percussion !

the ammunition not struck is not extracted by the extractors !
Good evening Riberac.
The first thing I would do is make sure the Extractor Screw on the Bottom of the Action is secure. See pic below. This is of a Gen 1 Repeater, but they are in the same place...
If that does not fix it, I would expand your write up of what is going on. Take some pics. And send them to Vudoo.
Then call them. They will help.
All the Best;
4Certain

Extractor Screw on Bottom of Action.jpg
 

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A little long, but might help.
I have had this problem on a 54 action Anschutz. and it was the extractor. This is the metal stop that protrudes up from the bottom of the action that the bottom of the case hits to push it out of the bolt nose. If it is too short it will not catch enough of the case to eject. My Annie was new also. The extractor was just too short . Replaced it and solved the problem. I'm not familiar with the Vudoo extractor and how it is held in place but I would check it and or replace it. Also, not pulling a unfired round from the chamber is common with chambers that allow the bullet to enguage the rifleing fairly deep. None of my benchrest guns will eject a unfired round!
 

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I would suggest you try "running" the bolt with some authority. If I don't run the bolt (when opening the bolt) with some authority, or force, the spent case will just end up laying on the loading ramp. You don't have to slam the bolt open but don't be lazy about it. A friend/match competitor has the same problem. I had/have the same problem with my Anschultz 64 action as well. Once I found the correct speed/force at which to run the bolt, problem basically went away.
 
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My V-22S is a bit lazy when it comes to flipping the spent case out of the ejection port. It helps some to run the bolt to the rear with some vigor, but it's not a 100% fix for the issue. Mine extracts the case with 100% reliability; if someone's having problems with extraction, it could be that the extractor slots weren't cut deep enough so that the extractor can get a good grip on the case rim. If cut correctly, there should be no more than about .005" between the edge of the chamber and the extractor slot.

Vudoo has been making a cut into the 3rd locking lug of the bolt on the Three-60 & V-22S actions to allow the bolt to travel a bit further to the rear before contacting the bolt stop; that provides more room for the case to be flipped out of the action instead of bouncing around and being left sitting backwards in the action. Neither my 1st V-22S nor Three-60 bolts have this cut, but the 2nd V-22S action that arrived a couple of months ago has been cut this way. I'll probably be calling for a RA so I can send the bolt out of the 1st V-22A back for the mod; haven't gotten the Three-60 barreled yet, and will wait until I get it up & running before worrying about the cut on that action's bolt.

Little Sister must be referring to the ejector when he's talking about having problems with the extractor. The extractor pulls the spent case out of the chamber, the ejector causes a case to pivot out of the extractor and be flipped out of the ejection port.
 

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I would suggest you try "running" the bolt with some authority. If I don't run the bolt (when opening the bolt) with some authority, or force, the spent case will just end up laying on the loading ramp. You don't have to slam the bolt open but don't be lazy about it. A friend/match competitor has the same problem. I had/have the same problem with my Anschultz 64 action as well. Once I found the correct speed/force at which to run the bolt, problem basically went away.
I agree with you Jim! You have to work the bolt like you mean it. Mine does the exact same thing. If you work the bolt like you're afraid you'll break it, you're gonna wind up with the spent cartridge laying in the breech. The few issues I have had have been with ELEY ammo. Every so often the extractor has problems grabbing the spent cartridge. Never with Lapua.
 

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My V-22S is a bit lazy when it comes to flipping the spent case out of the ejection port. It helps some to run the bolt to the rear with some vigor, but it's not a 100% fix for the issue. Mine extracts the case with 100% reliability; if someone's having problems with extraction, it could be that the extractor slots weren't cut deep enough so that the extractor can get a good grip on the case rim. If cut correctly, there should be no more than about .005" between the edge of the chamber and the extractor slot.

Vudoo has been making a cut into the 3rd locking lug of the bolt on the Three-60 & V-22S actions to allow the bolt to travel a bit further to the rear before contacting the bolt stop; that provides more room for the case to be flipped out of the action instead of bouncing around and being left sitting backwards in the action. Neither my 1st V-22S nor Three-60 bolts have this cut, but the 2nd V-22S action that arrived a couple of months ago has been cut this way. I'll probably be calling for a RA so I can send the bolt out of the 1st V-22A back for the mod; haven't gotten the Three-60 barreled yet, and will wait until I get it up & running before worrying about the cut on that action's bolt.

Little Sister must be referring to the ejector when he's talking about having problems with the extractor. The extractor pulls the spent case out of the chamber, the ejector causes a case to pivot out of the extractor and be flipped out of the ejection port.
I stand corrected. You are right. It is the ejector that I was referring too.
 

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I agree with you Jim! You have to work the bolt like you mean it. Mine does the exact same thing. If you work the bolt like you're afraid you'll break it, you're gonna wind up with the spent cartridge laying in the breech. The few issues I have had have been with ELEY ammo. Every so often the extractor has problems grabbing the spent cartridge. Never with Lapua.
I've not shot enough Lapua in my V22-s to remember whether it has done it or not. Mine shoots the Eley black box w/o issue as long as I do my part. :whistle:
 
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fredfish, What a coincidence. I ordered my V22S with a Shilen barrel, (and Flavio Fare trigger) on 8-14-21, with a delivery date of 1-13-22. I will hold on for a Shilen barrel, as not much outdoor BR shooting is done in January in Colorado.
No notification yet 1/14/22 --- how bout you?
 

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Ok. Dumb question, has anyone 'modified' the original v22 repeater aluminum bore guide to fit the v22s? Any pics? I have an idea what needs take off but don't want to ruin it
 

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Here is an indoor test with my V22s, of different brands of ammunition
R50, TENEX and Eley Match and Eley Match German, LAPUA M+ and Xact
the R50 is a lot that is at least 6 years old!!!
Tests with Tuner, without Tuner or with Tuner set to 12 ( 1/2 turn)
5 shots in each grouping
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Here is an indoor test with my V22s, of different brands of ammunition
R50, TENEX and Eley Match and Eley Match German, LAPUA M+ and Xact
the R50 is a lot that is at least 6 years old!!!
Tests with Tuner, without Tuner or with Tuner set to 12 ( 1/2 turn)
5 shots in each grouping
View attachment 7786423View attachment 7786424
At what distance were these shot at??
 

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McMillan also has McWoody molded-in pattern, which is similar, but with more vertical stripping instead of the horizontal of McWalnut. My most recent 20 Tactical on a bare M700 SA that I sent to LRI for their 5-axis blueprint work.
 

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What you see is what you get! I was really surprised! The mat and plywood are theirs. There's one issue: The plywood bench is supported on either side with what looks like furring strips or 1x2's. No problem there. That's sturdy enough. The issue comes in if your rig is HEAVY. My rest, rifle and rear bag weigh quite a bit. Enough to "sag" the plywood when resting your elbows on it. What it needs is two pieces of the "fine 1/2" layered Russian plywood" glued together making 1" and cut to fit. One could even cut a handle in it for easy transport. I'm thinking of suggesting it to them. The Russian plywood was my friend Drew Certain's idea. I've never seen the stuff but he tells me it's stout stuff!
GTI, I had a chance to visit OnTarget on Monday. Had a good testing session, but you are right, the benches are way too flexy. So, I am headed back this Friday to shoot another session. I had a prop that I made for shooting at Gat Gun, which will help at OnTarget. It's basically a one inch thick wood (pine) step replacement (from Menards), with foam attached to the bottom to minimize vibrations at Gat Gun. I think if I place the board to the right side of the bench at OnTarget, it should help a lot to stop the flexing of the plywood, given the thickness of the board. I'll take a pic or two and send it your way so you can see what you think. My board will set on top of the plywood (plywood/board/one piece rest/rifle), close to the right side where the support is best. I'll let you know how it works. The things we do to adapt to our environment...

Sorry, let's get back to the Vudoo thread now.

Best regards everyone...
 

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Dennis,
Which model McMillan stock is that pictured above? Beautiful stock by the way!
It's a Game Scout. Biggest difference between it and the Game Warden is that the latter has a wider forearm to allow the use of heavier barrels. Having been a long-time user of McMillan's tactical A3-5 & A5 stocks, I've grown to prefer the vertical pistol grips of these & Manners' T4A, EH1A, and PRS1T stocks.
 
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