Just so I have this right as far as the 'helping' Americans bill

[TheGerman]

Rep version is corporate bailouts and a little bit of money that you basically have to be poor to qualify for and probably won't do much anyways. Also mandates small business have to pay employees for X amount of weeks and can write it off and/or get it reimbursed eventually (have read this a bunch of different ways); which wont work because they dont have that cash and all you'll effectively achieve is guaranteeing they go bankrupt.

Dem version is stuffed full of shit that has absolutely nothing to do with anything and can't be connected to an economic crisis via 7 degrees of seperation, and some poor people cash too.

These are your two choices? Fucking seriously? You act like the end of the world is near, and this is fucking all you could come up with?

Oh, and fuck bailing out airlines again who had record profits for years running all while nickle and dimeing everyone to death with fees, smaller seats and the lack of anything resembeling service. Choke of a dick. I'd rather have a fucking nationalized air carrier run by reservists than give you faggots any more money.

And dear God, why am I getting fucking coronavirus emails from random fuck companies? Yes, I know coronavirus exists you fucks. I don't need fucking everyone I ever bought something from in the universe emailing me about their fucking take on it. Go shelter in place, or go back to work or some shit, but stop fucking emailing me about it.

 

[HogsLife]

The dems are trying to black mail Trump into approving their bull shit to compensate for their complete lack of accomplishments for the past 3.5 years.... Pelosi and Schumer need to burn...

 

[HogsLife]

Fuck the government welfare from Republicans or Democrats

I agree with that, however, if they’re going to force buisiness’ to close and issue stay at home orders, then they need to compensate the people. Can’t force people to not work and then expect them to be able to support their families ...

that being said. I’m blessed to have both me and my wife still working. If I was to get a check (which I won’t) I’d give it to someone who could use it.

 

[Mwalex]

Neither proposal is about helping the people that really need it. It’s politics as usual.

 

[TheGerman]

Neither proposal is about helping the people that really need it. It’s politics as usual.

I've never seen it more obvious than this.

Shit, maybe the patriot act? But even that had 'good' intentions at the start.

These bills are absolute garbage and will do nothing even if both were passed simultaneously right now.

 

[isofahunter]

Securing corporate jobs for friends and family and inside information. Thank you @German for playing you loose. Your Goberment

 

[sirhrmechanic]

Time for a march on Washington?

Sirhr

 

[10ring'r]

At least Pres. Trump made a comment to the media, that he wanted to know where all this money is going and to whom. My opinion is, I feel OUR tax $$ should be going back to the taxpayers and small business. These large Corps. can suck a big fat one. If these large Corps. couldn't save some of that multi billion $$ profits, that they have made, then that's on them. WE as workers have had to put some of our earnings away, the lucky ones, anyway, for emergencies, a child's college and whatnot, so they can suck it up and give up a couple of their mansions, yachts, etc.. I don't want to hear about them being the "job creators" B.S. either. This country hemorrhages so much tax $$ out to other 3rd World countries, it's F'n ridiculous.
Our tax $$ needs to stay here and take care of the people that have put into this so called Bank of the U.S.A. and do what's right with it. I really hope, with the shit that's been happening, that our .gov, will pull their heads out of their asses and do what's right for the betterment of this Country, afterall, they are supposed to be working for US, WE the people. Mac

 

[Ravenworks]

Fuck the government welfare from Republicans or Democrats

How old are you?
Simple question

 

[Maggot]

I dont give a shit as long as I get MY check. ?

 

[Zeroit]

Congress is incapable of doing a clean bill.
Still waiting to see one in my life.
Where's line item veto?
I hate political swamp stuff, makes me want to puke.

 

[PinesAndProjectiles]

I understand but why Force it down every Americans throat and force the taxation to pay it?

Why not do some kind of loan from the gov if you need help? I don’t need the money nor want to get taxed to death to pay for it

Because there isn't a a single soul amongst the 537 pieces of shit in DC that gives two shits about the common man unless it's election day.

 

[308pirate]

I agree with that, however, if they’re going to force buisiness’ to close and issue stay at home orders, then they need to compensate the people. Can’t force people to not work and then expect them to be able to support their families ...

Lots of businesses are hiring like crazy, mostly in their supply chain operations, all over the country.

Anyone who is unemployed and wants to work can get hired pretty much within days. Hell, it might even be a wage upgrade to many.

Anyone who is able bodied, unemployed, and is waiting for a check can go fuck off.

I'm still working, and barring a gigantic catastrophe, I will be throughout this whole deal because what we make is critical according to DHS and DCMA. But if I lost my job I could be driving an Amazon truck or slinging boxes tomorrow and I'd rather do that than collect unemployment.

 

[HogsLife]

I understand but why Force it down every Americans throat and force the taxation to pay it?

Why not do some kind of loan from the gov if you need help? I don’t need the money nor want to get taxed to death to pay for it

the only issue with that is the red tape involved and the time it would take for each individual to actually get their $$$$. You’d literally have 10’s of millions of people who are in dire straits all filling out loan applications at the same time. Who’s going to approve them all? How long would that take? People need cash ASAP.

I’m a conservative to the bone. No government tit for me, however, somethings gotta happen and it needs to happen pretty quickly. I don’t think there is a 100% right answer, but something needs to get done. That’s a fact.

 

[TheGerman]

Another unintended consequence to this that they probably haven't realized yet is that for all those that actually pay taxes - THIS is what your .gov will do to protect you under a 'crisis'.

Yeah. I'd like a refund and would unsubscribe from this service.

 

[HogsLife]

Lots of businesses are hiring like crazy, mostly in their supply chain operations, all over the country.

Anyone who is unemployed and wants to work can get hired pretty much within days. Hell, it might even be a wage upgrade to many.

Anyone who is able bodied, unemployed, and is waiting for a check can go fuck off.

That’s real talk man. If you can work, go find work. Period. The flip side to that though, now, is all the kids are out of school and at home full time...... some kids need more supervision than others, but with both parents working, “social distancing” etc, that presents another issue... what the hell of you do with a house full toddlers, elementary school kids? I’ll be damned if my kids get put in some daycare with a bunch of random ass snotty nose kids....

 

[HogsLife]

10 million more on the dole...

They going to put all us in fucking chains

no doubt, that’s been their MO from the get go......

 

[Darayavaus]

Rep version is corporate bailouts and a little bit of money that you basically have to be poor to qualify for and probably won't do much anyways. Also mandates small business have to pay employees for X amount of weeks and can write it off and/or get it reimbursed eventually (have read this a bunch of different ways); which wont work because they dont have that cash and all you'll effectively achieve is guaranteeing they go bankrupt.

Dem version is stuffed full of shit that has absolutely nothing to do with anything and can't be connected to an economic crisis via 7 degrees of seperation, and some poor people cash too.

These are your two choices? Fucking seriously? You act like the end of the world is near, and this is fucking all you could come up with?

Oh, and fuck bailing out airlines again who had record profits for years running all while nickle and dimeing everyone to death with fees, smaller seats and the lack of anything resembeling service. Choke of a dick. I'd rather have a fucking nationalized air carrier run by reservists than give you faggots any more money.

And dear God, why am I getting fucking coronavirus emails from random fuck companies? Yes, I know coronavirus exists you fucks. I don't need fucking everyone I ever bought something from in the universe emailing me about their fucking take on it. Go shelter in place, or go back to work or some shit, but stop fucking emailing me about it.

it's good to vent.

 

[308pirate]

That’s real talk man. If you can work, go find work. Period. The flip side to that though, now, is all the kids are out of school and at home full time...... some kids need more supervision than others, but with both parents working, “social distancing” etc, that presents another issue... what the hell of you do with a house full toddlers, elementary school kids? I’ll be damned if my kids get put in some daycare with a bunch of random ass snotty nose kids....

Everyone has to make the decisions that fit their situation.

What's undeniable is that many companies are begging for labor. If someone needs work and wants to stop with the excuses, it's there for the taking.

 

[HogsLife]

None of the school closings affected me. I had my woman at home teaching my children school long before all this happen. Keep them out of government brainwashing factory.

People got too damn fat and happy with letting gov teach their kids and look what happens... gov fail them now they in a shit situation and beating their kids because they can’t hack being around their little ones all day and schooling them...

Never rely on government besides enforcement of a strong mil... even that they’re trying to fuck up

I agree 100% on the public school system. Both my daughters (12 and 10) have been in private school since kindergarten. As long as it’s in my power, I’ll never subject my kids to the government propaganda machine......

none the less, they did have their school shut down. I pulled them both out a week before that though. Im Not gonna wait for someone else to tell me. Youngest has Asthma. Not taking that risk, and you can’t trust other parents to keep their kids home when their sick. Fortunately I’m able to do a lot of my work from home so that what I’ve been doing. Wife is currently working 16 hours a days as nurse, so she’s pretty busy right about now. Lol

 

[MtnCreek]

With everything else going on, might as well write everyone a $50k check and go ahead and get it all sorted out at once.

 

[Ravenworks]

None of your business. Simple answer

No reason to be a douchebag about it.

 

[Foul Mike]

I am OLD. Old enough to have been around and have seen some shit in my lifetime.

I am very ashamed that our Congress, both the House and the Senate , can't get their shit together and do what needs to be done.

Fighting over pigshit, and I wonder how many rights of the people are trampled by a 1000 page bill? Any pork there?

Does Hank get to keep the island from capsizing? and is his gun bill in there?

They can't get over petty pork and just do what needs to be done? For the American people?

I am all for Term Limits and stringing a few of the bad people up and voting out the shit bags that are in there.

What a cesspool Congress has become.

 

[CountryShooter]

I think people forced to not work should be compensated. I believe companies forced to close should be compensated. I'm not into the whole corporations are evil BS. Participate in the game (401k for most of us) and you benefit when those corporations do well. Most forced to not work will draw employment. Distribute these bonus checks through the UE offices. Easy way to see who had been impacted.

 

[Foul Mike]

If they don't compensate some of those businesses? will there be a job to return to when this shit blows over?

 

[HogsLife]

See that there’s is a prime example of self discipline= self government... keep up the good work. Take your kids punt of school to keep them safe and lock it down to fight the spread.

Keep your kids safe and tell your wife she is truly appreciated for her service. Nurses inn the front line with all of isn’t diseased infected animals coughing on them.

We do what we can do man. Whats right by God and by our families. ??

 

[PinesAndProjectiles]

If they don't compensate some of those businesses? will there be a job to return to when this shit blows over?

Possibly not. And suck as it may, I don't remember where in the Constitution it says .gov is responsible for making sure you get a check every two weeks.

It's a very tough pill to swallow, but we as a country can't afford to keep bailing out businesses or individuals.

 

[HogsLife]

People wouldn’t have to be forced to closedown if we all practiced one of my favorite lines from ol Paul Harvey...

Man can’t have self Government without Self Discipline...

I locked down my family when all this started. Only I got for supplies and they’re only allowed out with me until all this crazy simmers down. Didn’t need government to tell me to close up then, surely don’t need it now.

Besides we should all be prepared for the skinny times

I’ve been saying that from the get go. Everybody talks about self governing, don’t need no stinking government etc. etc, well, there’s a responsibility that comes with being a citizen in a free country. Take action and do whats right by the country and the people around you without having to do it while looking down the barrel of the governments gun.

You can’t have the benefits without the responsibilities that come with them....

 

[HogsLife]

Possibly not. And suck as it may, I don't remember where in the Constitution it says .gov is responsible for making sure you get a check every two weeks.

It's a very tough pill to swallow, but we as a country can't afford to keep bailing out businesses or individuals.

where does it say in the Constitution that the governments can shut down your schools, businesses, places or work, etc etc?

and if they do, do they not have a responsibility to then compensate you?

I get what you’re saying 100%, but there things going on right now that are a bit out of the norm.

 

[Sixfivesavage]

I’ve been saying that from the get go. Everybody talks about self governing, don’t need no stinking government etc. etc, well, there’s a responsibility that comes with being a citizen in a free country. Take action and do whats right by the country and the people around you without having to do it while looking down the barrel of the governments gun.

You can’t have the benefits without the responsibilities that come with them....

There's a saying for that, my 4 year old can even repeat it and my 2 year old tries......"everyone has a right and noone has a responsibility"

 

[CountryShooter]

I’ve been saying that from the get go. Everybody talks about self governing, don’t need no stinking government etc. etc, well, there’s a responsibility that comes with being a citizen in a free country. Take action and do whats right by the country and the people around you without having to do it while looking down the barrel of the governments gun.

You can’t have the benefits without the responsibilities that come with them....

I totally agree. I was speaking as if some checks were going to go out. I would rather they didn't. I adhere to the Dave Ramsey 3-6 months expenses in cash. I've got that beat. If anyone doesn't it is because of their personal choices. Excluding the truly disabled, which could be helped through nongov channels. You should take care of yourself and not be a dependent.

 

[HogsLife]

I totally agree. I was speaking as if some checks were going to go out. I would rather they didn't. I adhere to the Dave Ramsey 3-6 months expenses in cash. I've got that beat. If anyone doesn't it is because of their personal choices. Excluding the truly disabled, which could be helped through nongov channels. You should take care of yourself and not be a dependent.

Amen to that! ??Dave Ramsey is a great program!

 

[PinesAndProjectiles]

where does it say in the Constitution that the governments can shut down your schools, businesses, places or work, etc etc?

and if they do, do they not have a responsibility to then compensate you?

I get what you’re saying 100%, but there things going on right now that are a bit out of the norm.

Let's make congress pay for it out of their own pockets. Start with Pelosi and Schumer.

 

[HogsLife]

Let's make congress pay for it out of their own pockets. Start with Pelosi and Schumer.

yeah no bull shit there! unfortunately that’s our money too. Freakin swamp rats worth 10’s of millions as career politicians on 130k salaries.....

Selling our rights away at a premium to line their own pockets.

 

[PinesAndProjectiles]

I officially declare all taxpayers are unessential businesses and no longer have to pay their employees (this means all the elected piles of shit who identify as humans claiming to be our "representation") until Covid passes.

It will then be decided on a case to case basis whether said employee will be retained.

 

[Ravenworks]

Dippy,I basically was asking for a median.
As for the Government money,they really fucked that one up by letting it leak that they wete thinking about paying every swinging dick.
Now that albatross around our neck ( Welfare ) will be expecting to get what the working folks have.
Here's a few other things that I've thought of just because my mind is twisted.
How long before the dope dealers start freaking out over lose of income?
Panhandlers?
Heroin homeless drug addict?
Yeah,there is some ugly shit coming done the pipe.
As for the Government handing out money,I think they should shore up the small businesses.

The unemployment compensation should be streamlined so they can get to their money in a week instead of a month.
Corporate bailout,sorry but how much money has Boeing fucked off,how much have they fucked their customers with their lying?

Lastly,fuck these kids with student loans.
I paid mine off and worked while carry a full load.
That's all I ever heard from my ex-wife's kids.
I paid the whole nut for a PHD in animal behavior from the university of Tennessee and a law degree from George Mason university in 2008.
They haven't ever worked a day However the went behind my back and went 100k in debt.
How do you do that?
Nope,it's time for people to toughen up or let the wheels fall off.

 

[Snipe260]

See that there’s is a prime example of self discipline= self government... keep up the good work. Take your kids out of school to keep them safe and lock it down to fight the spread.

My wife is nurse antKeep your kids safe and tell your wife she is truly appreciated for her service. Nurses in the front line with all of us diseased infected animals coughing on them.

my wife is nurse anethstesis! She came in this evening and walked in naked! Stripped down in garage and straight to shower. I thought she did it as our anniversary today! Nope?

 

[HogsLife]

my wife is nurse anethstesis! She came in this evening and walked in naked! Stripped down in garage and straight to shower. I thought she did it as our anniversary today! Nope?

hahaha my wife does the same. I open the garage for her when she gets home. Strips down, clothes go in the wash, and straight to the shower! ? it’s either that or i decontaminate her with a pressure washer and simple green. I’ve heard she’ll eventually return to her normal color....??

 

[GUN NUT in IA]

Time for a march on Washington?

Sirhr

Don't forget to keep you government mandated "social distance" and limit your attendance number to below 10.

 

[armorpl8chikn]

Do da check come today, oh do da check come tommah?

 

[SilentStalkr]

It’s simple. This has nothing to do with helping people and everything to do with some people getting super wealthy at our expense. The crazy thing is, I had a friend of mine weeks back tell me that Trump was going to be redistributing the wealth in this country. I told him he was off his marbles and while this isn’t Trump perse, this is certainly wealth redistribution, just not in the way I figured he meant.

 

[65x55guy]

As was said by the OP, both sides suck here. No idea why this thing takes over 10 pages to write up.

1. if you get laid off because the business you work for has to shut down for the greater good, here’s a small amount of money to get you by.
2. If you need money to keep a business open, here’s a line of cheap credit. Can be no more than X percent of your yearly revenue.

 

[HogsLife]

It’s simple. This has nothing to do with helping people and everything to do with some people getting super wealthy at our expense. The crazy thing is, I had a friend of mine weeks back tell me that Trump was going to be redistributing the wealth in this country. I told him he was off his marbles and while this isn’t Trump perse, this is certainly wealth redistribution, just not in the way I figured he meant.

Call me naive, but I don’t believe Trump doesn’t care about getting relief to the people affected most by this outbreak.

if he stood back and did nothing they would lynch him. Good luck in November. Biden would be our President. Hilary could end up being his VP. Good by conservative SC Justice. We’d be in big trouble, up shit creek without a paddle. Beto would be in charge of the Gun Control. Screwed completely.

He had to do something, and now the Dems are trying to blackmail him with a bill full of bull shit to compensate for there lack of accomplishments over the past 3.5 years...

 

[Sieg]

No reason to be a douchebag about it.

No?

Other than Ignore List Top 10 material.

 

[SilentStalkr]

Call me naive, but I don’t believe Trump doesn’t care about getting relief to the people affected most by this outbreak.

if he stood back and did nothing they would lynch him. Good luck in November. Biden would be our President. Hilary could end up being his VP. Good by conservative SC Justice. We’d be in big trouble, up shit creek without a paddle. Beto would be in charge of the Gun Control. Screwed completely.

He had to do something, and now the Dems are trying to blackmail him with a bill full of bull shit to compensate for there lack of accomplishments over the past 3.5 years...

I’m not saying he didn’t or isn’t doing anything. I applaud his efforts. Truthfully, there is no good move here. He was damned if he did and damned if he didn’t. What I’m saying is, this seems to be a form of wealth redistribution, not necessarily by Trump. My buddy claims Trump was in control in which case in that regard I thought he was crazy but he does seem to be right about the wealth redistribution part. Call me crazy but I think Trump has done a great job, whether he is playing the part or not. And I genuinely think he cares about people.

 

[SilentStalkr]

No?

Other than Ignore List Top 10 material.

WTF y’all talking about?

 

[HogsLife]

WTF y’all talking about?

bringin up old shit.......?

 

[SilentStalkr]

bringin up old shit.......?

Want to fill us in?

 

[kriller134]

hahaha my wife does the same. I open the garage for her when she gets home. Strips down, clothes go in the wash, and straight to the shower! ? it’s either that or i decontaminate her with a pressure washer and simple green. I’ve heard she’ll eventually return to her normal color....??

my wife is nurse anethstesis! She came in this evening and walked in naked! Stripped down in garage and straight to shower. I thought she did it as our anniversary today! Nope?

pictures or it didn’t happen

 

[HogsLife]

Want to fill us in?

nah, that’s old shit... lol, plus im
Not even sure it was about. Back on page one you’ll see the where it started...